Physics Problem: Bungy Jump Calculation for Maximum Acceleration | Matt (44kg)

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a bungy jump scenario where a participant, Matt, seeks to calculate the maximum acceleration experienced during the jump. The problem includes parameters such as mass, spring constant, and the lengths involved in the jump, and it touches on concepts of energy conservation and forces.

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Main Points Raised

  • Matt presents an initial approach using conservation of energy, equating potential energy and spring energy, but expresses confusion over the resulting acceleration calculation.
  • Some participants suggest starting the energy calculations from the 30 m drop point, emphasizing that the cord is slack during this initial phase.
  • One participant indicates that Matt's initial equation is correct if the height is considered as 30 m, but points out a potential typo regarding the stretched length of the spring.
  • Another participant notes that the jumper does not accelerate upward from the ground, clarifying the dynamics of the jump and where the maximum upward acceleration occurs.
  • Matt acknowledges a misunderstanding regarding the length of the spring that should be considered when calculating the force, indicating a realization of the error in his approach.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the need to consider the 30 m drop as the starting point for energy calculations, but there remains some confusion regarding the correct application of the spring force and the dynamics of the jump. The discussion does not reach a consensus on the final calculations or the interpretation of the results.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the assumptions made regarding the energy states at different points in the jump, particularly concerning the slack cord and the transition from free fall to spring action. The discussion reflects unresolved mathematical steps and varying interpretations of the problem setup.

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Homework Statement


Matt(44kg) was going to do a bungy jump(spring constant=105N/m) that is 30m long when it's unstreched.The rope is attached to a platform 65m above the ground.What is the maximum acceleration closes to the ground.
Sorry for my bad english, i was trying to translate my homework from swedish to english.

Homework Equations


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The Attempt at a Solution


I'm using the conservation of engery rule thing.
Ep+Ek+Es=E2p+E2k+E2s
There is no kinetical energy or spring energy in the beginning, and no potential or kinetical energy in the end => Ep=E2s => mgh=1/2*k*x^2
and we don't know the total length => mg(h+x)=1/2*k*x^2
and then i solve x and i get that x= about 20m
so the total length when the string is attached is 20+30=50m
And then i can solve the force of the spring, F=k*x F=105N/m*50m F=5250N
And then i use ƩF=m*a => G-F=m*a => (G-F)/m=a
=> (44kg*9,81m/s^2-5250N)/44kg=-109,508 m/s^2
And this can't be true!
Any ideas?
 
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During the first 30 m, the cord is slack and has no potential energy at the beginning or end.. But the jumper is in free fall, so the jumper has Kinetic Energy at 30m. Use this 30 m drop as the starting point for your energy equation
 
Sorry but I don't understand why it would be so.. But later when i was trying to solve it i got an answer that is 37 m/s^2, when the person accelerates upward from the ground. I can send my equations later, if u can take a look at them?
 
Your answer looks about right, i thought you had made an incorrect assumption when your answer was so far off, but you initial equation looks OK if h =30, and then you made a typo using x =50 when you should have used x = 20. Looks like you've corrected that.

Note that the person does not accelerate upward from the ground. The jumper never reaches it, he comes to a halt at 50 m, or at about 15 m above ground, where his upward acceleration is highest.
 
Yupp, the problem was when i was going to solve the Force of the spring F=k*x
and then i took the total length of the spring when it was streched but i was suppose to only the length that was streched which is kinda obvious! But thank you for your help!
 
use the 30m drop as your starting point, easiest option.
 

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