Physics Q&A Game: Exploring Faraday's Law with Marcus' Polar Route Question

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around a physics question related to Faraday's Law and the induced voltage across the wingtips of an airplane flying a polar route. Participants explore the implications of the Earth's magnetic field on the airplane's wingspan and speed, considering both theoretical and practical aspects of measuring induced voltage. The scope includes theoretical reasoning, application of electromagnetic principles, and conceptual clarification of related phenomena.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • Warren suggests that there should be no induced voltage because neither the area nor the magnetic field is changing, referencing Faraday's law.
  • Some participants calculate induced voltage using the formula involving the wingspan, speed, and the vertical component of the Earth's magnetic field, arriving at different numerical results.
  • Tyger mentions that while voltage is induced, it cannot be measured with a standard voltmeter due to similar induction occurring with the meter leads.
  • Others, including damgo and Alexander, argue that a voltmeter would not show a voltage difference because the induced electromotive force (emf) is evenly distributed along the wire.
  • Marcus discusses integrating emf over the length of the wings and reflects on the complexity of the problem, indicating that it is a standard textbook example related to the Lorentz force.
  • Participants express uncertainty about the application of the Hall effect in this scenario, with some asserting that it is not typically considered an example of the Hall effect.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express multiple competing views regarding the induced voltage and the applicability of different measurement methods. There is no consensus on whether a voltmeter can accurately measure the induced voltage across the wingtips, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the interpretation of the problem and the calculations involved.

Contextual Notes

Some limitations include the dependence on specific definitions of terms like emf and the assumptions made about the magnetic field's characteristics. The discussion also highlights the complexity of integrating concepts from different areas of electromagnetism without reaching a definitive conclusion.

  • #91
It wouldn't just be raliegh, it's probably a little raman and raman-stokes. I would imagine the electrons would not fall back to their origonal energy levels everytime.

Pete
 
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  • #92
SD645,
The rules of the thread are to post a single question, the one who answers correctly (first) earns the right to to post the next question. At this point, while I am tempted to simply delete the extra questions I will instead specify that your first question is the current one on the "table". It would be nice if you cleaned up the other questions.

If you can't do it I can.
 
  • #93
Posting rules.

Sorry to have disobeyed the rules of the thread (single question posting and waiting my turn). Frankly, the thread isn't very active so I didn't think people would mind if I posted some interesting questions.

Guess I was wrong.

P.S. I saved you the trouble of "cleaning up" my questions.
 
  • #94
Thanks,

Give it a bit more time. I am sure someone will step up to the plate soon. :smile:
 

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