Physics vs EE enrollments, is there a rule?

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The discussion centers around the relationship between the number of physics majors and electrical engineering (EE) majors at universities, specifically questioning whether there is a consistent ratio between the two fields. Participants explore the implications of enrollment trends and seek data to support or refute the existence of a correlation.

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  • One participant questions the validity of a direct correlation between physics and EE majors, citing personal experiences with electrical engineers who do not favor physics.
  • Another participant suggests that high school students interested in physics may choose EE for better job prospects, which could influence enrollment ratios.
  • A request for data on the ratio of physics to EE majors is made, emphasizing the need for averages across multiple institutions to assess the situation more accurately.
  • Some participants express skepticism about the notion that students interested in physics are primarily drawn to EE due to job security.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the correlation between physics and EE enrollments. Multiple competing views are presented regarding student motivations and the existence of a consistent ratio.

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The discussion highlights a lack of communication between the physics and EE departments regarding enrollment data, which may affect the understanding of trends. There is also an emphasis on the need for empirical data to substantiate claims about enrollment ratios.

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This discussion may be of interest to academic administrators, department chairs, and researchers analyzing trends in STEM enrollments and student career choices.

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I once heard that the number of physics majors is always in direct proportion to those of electrical engineering in the same school, is that true? Here at U Texas El Paso the ratio has been:

  • 7% (2005)
    5.4% (2006)
    4.7 (2007)
    3.4 (2008)
.
This is of interests because what I heard was that the ratio was approximately 10% and we are way below.

Does anybody else have some numbers on this?
 
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I really doubt there is a much of a correlation. A lot of electrical engineers that I know don't even like physics and the two colleges that handle engineering and physics aren't really in communication about enrollment.
 
You are right, the EE and Physics departments do not talk to each other, but the idea behind the supposed ratio is a different one. It is argued that many high school students interested in physics do not go all into physics but mainly into EE to improve their chances at getting a job after graduation; this effect is supposed to construct the 10 -to-1 ratio.

A simple comparison of ratios from other universities would easily confirm or destroy the theory.
 
I agree with roeb. I know a few people in EE, each of which doesn't like pure physics. So I wouldn't agree that people who are interested in physics go into EE for the job prospects.
 
Thanks for your opinions.

Let me re-phrase the question: can anybody provide data of the ratio of physics majors compared to EE majors? Trend of ratios would be even better.

The average of ratios of several intitutions (provided the standard deviation is not too large) may help me (and many other Chairs) decide if our physics population is large or small than it ought to be.

Thanks.
 

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