Planes. Find the equations of the planes in both cartesian and (vector) form.

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around finding the equations of a plane that passes through a specific point and contains a given line in three-dimensional space. The subject area includes vector geometry and the properties of planes and lines in Cartesian coordinates.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants attempt to derive vectors from the line equations and express the plane's equation. There are questions about the validity of the vectors formed and their relationship to the line and the point on the plane.

Discussion Status

Some participants express confusion regarding the vectors derived from the line equations and their implications for defining the plane. There is a recognition that additional information may be necessary to uniquely determine the plane's equation, indicating an ongoing exploration of the problem's requirements.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that having a point and a line is insufficient to define a unique plane, suggesting that the problem statement may lack completeness.

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Homework Statement



The plane that passes through the point (1, 6, 4) and contains the line
x = 1 + 2t; y = 2 - 3t; z = 3 - t where t is an element of R

Homework Equations



x = 1 + 2t; y = 2 - 3t; z = 3 - t

The Attempt at a Solution


Let L be the solution.
L = (1,6,4) - ?

t = (x -1)/ 2 = (2-y)/3 = 3-z
 
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dodgedanpei said:

Homework Statement



The plane that passes through the point (1, 6, 4) and contains the line
x = 1 + 2t; y = 2 - 3t; z = 3 - t where t is an element of R

Homework Equations



x = 1 + 2t; y = 2 - 3t; z = 3 - t

The Attempt at a Solution


Let L be the solution.
L = (1,6,4) - ?

t = (x -1)/ 2 = (2-y)/3 = 3-z

These equations just represent the line that you are given. Instead of just throwing up a bunch of equations, say something about your thought process in finding the equation of the plane.
 
Well I tried making 2 vectors by using the 3 equations.
I got
vector x = t(2,-3,-1) = (1,2,3)

But the two vectors are meant to be s(0,-4,7) + t(-8,0,25) , where s and t are real numbers.
 
dodgedanpei said:
Well I tried making 2 vectors by using the 3 equations.
I got
vector x = t(2,-3,-1) = (1,2,3)
This doesn't make any sense at all. First off, <1, 2, 3> is a vector from the origin to the point (1, 2, 3) on the line. Second, the vector t<2, -3, -1> = <2t, -3t, -t> is a vector that has the same direction as the line.

There is no value of t for which t<2, -3, -1> = <1, 2, 3>. For every value of t, these vectors point in different directions.
dodgedanpei said:
But the two vectors are meant to be s(0,-4,7) + t(-8,0,25) , where s and t are real numbers.

Based on what you're showing is the answer, I don't believe that you have provided all of the information for this problem. If you know a point on a plane, and a line that goes through it, that is not enough information to determine the equation of a unique plane.

What is the complete statement of the problem?
 

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