Please check my calculations with these complex numbers

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The discussion revolves around calculations involving complex numbers, specifically focusing on expressions involving Euler's formula, logarithms of complex numbers, and the representation of complex numbers in polar coordinates.

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  • Participants explore the simplification of complex expressions and question the correctness of logarithmic calculations. There are discussions about the assumptions regarding the nature of the variable z, whether it is real or complex, and how that affects the calculations. Some participants suggest using Euler's formula for transformations and express concerns about visualizing complex expressions.

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The discussion is ongoing with various participants providing insights and suggestions. Some have offered guidance on using polar coordinates and Euler's formula, while others are questioning specific assumptions and calculations. There is no explicit consensus, but several productive lines of reasoning are being explored.

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Participants note the importance of correctly identifying the nature of the variable z in the context of the problem, as well as the implications of using polar versus Cartesian coordinates in their calculations.

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Homework Statement
Calculate the following terms.
Relevant Equations
Complex numbers.
$$Re(e^{2iz}) = Re(\cos(2z)+i\sin(2z))=\cos(2z)$$$$e^{i^3} = e^{-i}$$ $$\ln (\sqrt 3 + i)^3=\ln(2)+i(\dfrac {\pi}{6}+2k\pi)$$
Can't I simplify these more? Are they correct?

Final one:## (1+3i)^{\frac 1 2}##
Can I write in in term of ##\sin x## and ##\cos x## then use ##(\cos x+i\sin x)^n=\cos (nx)+i\sin (nx)##?
Something like this :
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Many thanks.
 
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Check this one: ##\ln (\sqrt 3 + i)^3=\ln(2)+i(\dfrac {\pi}{6}+2k\pi)##. I suspect you forgot about the power 3.
 
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Hill said:
Check this one: ##\ln (\sqrt 3 + i)^3=\ln(2)+i(\dfrac {\pi}{6}+2k\pi)##. I suspect you forgot about the power 3.
Yes. Thanks.
$$\ln (\sqrt 3 + i)^3=\ln (2e^{i (\frac {\pi}{6}+2k\pi) })^3=\ln (8e^{3i (\frac {\pi}{6}+2k\pi) })=\ln(8)+3i (\frac {\pi}{6}+2k\pi) $$
 
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MatinSAR said:
Homework Statement: Calculate the following terms.
Relevant Equations: Complex numbers.

$$Re(e^{2iz}) = Re(\cos(2z)+i\sin(2z))=\cos(2z)$$
It looks like you are assuming that ##z## is a real number. Otherwise, ##\cos(2z)## is not necessarily real.
If it is real, you should state that (and I would prefer that you use ##r## instead of ##z##).
 
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IMO, some of these would be simpler if they were transformed using Euler's equation: ##e^{i r} = \cos(r)+i\sin(r)## for any real number, ##r##.
MatinSAR said:
$$e^{i^3} = e^{-i}$$
Wouldn't that be easier to visualize as ##\cos(-1)+i\sin(-1) = \cos(1)-i\sin(1)##?
MatinSAR said:
Final one:## (1+3i)^{\frac 1 2}##
Can I write in in term of ##\sin x## and ##\cos x## then use ##(\cos x+i\sin x)^n=\cos (nx)+i\sin (nx)##?
What if you change it to polar coordinates using Euler's formula? Powers are much easier in that form.
##(r e^{ix})^{\frac 1 2} = r^{\frac 1 2} e^{i{\frac 1 2}x}##.
Then you can use Euler's formula again to put the result back to Cartesian coordinates if you want.
 
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FactChecker said:
Wouldn't that be easier to visualize as ##\cos(-1)+i\sin(-1) = \cos(1)-i\sin(1)##?
How ##\cos(-1)+i\sin(-1) = \cos(1)-i\sin(1)## is possible? I did not understand.
FactChecker said:
What if you change it to polar coordinates using Euler's formula? Powers are much easier in that form.
##(r e^{ix})^{\frac 1 2} = r^{\frac 1 2} e^{i{\frac 1 2}x}##.
Then you can use Euler's formula again to put the result back to Cartesian coordinates if you want.
Thanks for the suggestion. All my answers were correct except the one you've mentioend in post #4. That ##z## is a complex number so my answer is wrong.
 
MatinSAR said:
How ##\cos(-1)+i\sin(-1) = \cos(1)-i\sin(1)## is possible? I did not understand.
cos(x) is an even function, so cos(-x) = cos(x).
sin(x) is an odd function, so sin(-x) = -sin(x).
MatinSAR said:
Thanks for the suggestion. All my answers were correct except the one you've mentioend in post #4. That ##z## is a complex number so my answer is wrong.
So express z as ##a+ib, a,b\in R##.
Then ##e^{2iz} = e^{2i(a+ib)} = e^{i(2a)} e^{-2b}##.
See what you can do from there.
 
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FactChecker said:
cos(x) is an even function, so cos(-x) = cos(x).
sin(x) is an odd function, so sin(-x) = -sin(x).
Idk how I didn't remember this. Perhaps because it's too late here.
FactChecker said:
cos(x) is an even function, so cos(-x) = cos(x).
sin(x) is an odd function, so sin(-x) = -sin(x).

So express z as ##a+ib, a,b\in R##.
Then ##e^{2iz} = e^{2i(a+ib)} = e^{i(2a)} e^{-2b}##.
See what you can do from there.
I will try tomorrow. Thanks for your time.
 
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FactChecker said:
So express z as ##a+ib, a,b\in R##.
Then ##e^{2iz} = e^{2i(a+ib)} = e^{i(2a)} e^{-2b}##.
See what you can do from there.
$$e^{2iz} = e^{2i(a+ib)} = e^{i(2a)} e^{-2b}$$$$Re(e^{2iz}) = e^{-2b} cos(2a)$$
 
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MatinSAR said:
$$e^{2iz} = e^{2i(a+ib)} = e^{i(2a)} e^{-2b}$$$$Re(e^{2iz}) = e^{-2b} cos(2a)$$
Good. I might have gone farther in my hint than I should have. Some people say that Euler's Formula is the most important formula in mathematics. In any case, it is important to get used to using it to go back and forth between polar and Cartesian coordinates. It can make things a lot easier.
 
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FactChecker said:
Good. I might have gone farther in my hint than I should have. Some people say that Euler's Formula is the most important formula in mathematics. In any case, it is important to get used to using it to go back and forth between polar and Cartesian coordinates. It can make things a lot easier.
Thanks for your time @FactChecker .
 

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