Please help with this matrix question Solve for Eigenvales, and Eigenvectors

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The discussion revolves around finding eigenvalues and eigenvectors for a given 2x2 matrix defined by parameters a, b, and c. The original poster presents their work on deriving the eigenvalues using the characteristic polynomial and the quadratic formula, but encounters difficulties in further simplifying the expressions and proceeding to find the eigenvectors.

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  • Participants discuss the derivation of eigenvalues from the characteristic equation and explore simplifications of the resulting expressions. Questions arise regarding the algebraic manipulation of the eigenvalue expressions and the subsequent steps to find eigenvectors.

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Some participants have provided welcoming remarks and affirmations of the original poster's work. There is an ongoing exploration of the algebraic simplification of the eigenvalue expressions, with one participant indicating that they have made progress in cleaning up the expression. However, there is no explicit consensus on the next steps for finding the eigenvectors, and the discussion remains open-ended.

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Participants are working under the constraints of homework rules, which may limit the extent of guidance provided. The algebraic complexity of the eigenvalue expressions is acknowledged as a challenge for some participants.

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M = (a c)
(c b)

Sorry for the double sets of brackets, its all in one. I'll also show as far as i got below:

[a-λ c] => (a-λ)(b-λ) - c^2 = λ^2 + (-a-b)λ + (ab-c^2) =0
[c b-λ] =>

then using the quadratic formula: λ = [-(-a-b) +/- Sqrt{(-a-b)^2 - 4(1)(ab-c^2)}]/ 2

then after some algebra I got stuck: λ = [(a+b) +/- Sqrt{a^2 + 2ab + b^2 -4ac^2}]/2

λ = [(a+b) +/- Sqrt{a^2 - 2ab + b^2 + c^2}]/2 ==>> THIS IS WHERE I GOT STUCK. PLEASE HELP
 
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sidinsky said:
λ = [(a+b) +/- Sqrt{a^2 - 2ab + b^2 + c^2}]/2

looks ok :smile:

that gives you the two eigenvalues,

so now use the standard techniques to find an eigenvector for each :wink:
 
is there any way this expression can be simplified further? I am sort of having trouble with the algebra :S
 
sidinsky said:
is there any way this expression can be simplified further?

i don't think so

how far have you got?​
 
well I managed to clean up the expression inside the sqrt a bit to: [(a-b)2 + c 2 ]/2

a2 -2ab + b2 + c2 = (a-b)2 + c2

λ1 = (a+b) + sqrt{(a-b)2 +c 2}[itex]/2[/itex]

and λ2 = (a+b) - sqrt{(a-b)2 + c2}[itex]/2[/itex]

now these expressions for Lambda are too difficult for me to use to solve for eigenvectors
 

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