News Plight of Terri Schiavo: Facts, Emotions, and Outcomes

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The discussion centers around the controversial case of Terri Schiavo, a disabled woman in Florida who has been in a persistent vegetative state for over 12 years following a collapse that caused severe brain damage. The imminent removal of her feeding tube has sparked intense debate about her quality of life, the ethics of allowing her to die by starvation, and the legal responsibilities of her husband versus her parents. Proponents argue that Terri is responsive and could benefit from therapy, while opponents assert that she has been brain dead for years and keeping her alive is a financial burden on taxpayers. The conversation touches on the definitions of persistent vegetative state versus brain death, the implications of medical advancements, and the moral dilemmas surrounding euthanasia and assisted suicide. Ultimately, the discussion highlights the deep emotional and ethical complexities involved in end-of-life decisions, particularly when the wishes of the individual are not clearly documented.
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Thats pretty crass - using a trajedy as an excuse to flame the US on an unrelated issue. Shame on you.
 
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russ_watters said:
Thats pretty crass - using a trajedy as an excuse to flame the US on an unrelated issue. Shame on you.

But it's a standard freeper tactic too. "Noam Chomsky cares about xyz but he doesn't care about [whatever the current freeper hoohah is]!" It's almost sure to come up in any of the loving textual analyses they call "fisking".
 
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selfAdjoint said:
But it's a standard freeper tactic too. "Noam Chomsky cares about xyz but he doesn't care about [whatever the current freeper hoohah is]!"
I've never heard that - its always just, 'Noam Chomsky's ideas are crap.'
 
  • #204
So I turn on the TV recently and I still hear about the Terri Schiavo incident... ahh it refuses to end! She has already passed away and our lives should move on.

Just so long as the Schindlers don't tie up the judicial system after her death and congress/president doesn't overstep their boundaries, we should all be fine for now. And our lives can move on without having a media circus all over the place on this one single issue that has been dominating for a solid week (other issues such as the recent 8 magnitude shock in Indonesia seems far more pressing imo).
 
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Don't you believe it. The religious right has already threatened to use this to oust those politicians they feel did not do enough to help her. They have equated it with murder. Several states are already considering changing their end-of-life laws, and no doubt congressional Republicans will be looking at the federal laws. There's much to gain politically here. It's not over yet.

stoned said:
hypocritical america is divided about this poor lady live,and we hear how precious even one american live is,meanwhile almost no one gives a damn about lives of hundred of thousands of afghani,palestinian,iraqi people killed or wounded.

Or the hundred some-odd death warrants Bush himself singed while governor. Guess it depends on who's doing the dying.
 
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As for the hooh-hah going on, DeLay has announced he's going to ask the House Judiciary Committee to investigate the judges who wouldn't play along with the circus.
 
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That is f*&#ing ridiculous, especially since many of these guys are lawyers and actually know better. These judges followed a very clear and unambiguous law. There is exactly ZERO cause for investigating them. If I were one of them, I'd resign in protest, though I guess that only gives them a chance to appoint one of their cronies.

You know, when the gay marriage thing was going on the Republicans complained about "activist judges." Now that's apparently exactly what they expected in this case. Jeezy Creezy, how can the American public be so freaking blind to their raging hypocrisy.

Who was it that said, "We get the government we deserve"?
 
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I have a neighbor who is dieing, because she can't afford the medicine to save her life. Her 12,000 dollar a year pension makes her to rich for state aid.
Now these are laws which should be changed!
 
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selfAdjoint said:
As for the hooh-hah going on, DeLay has announced he's going to ask the House Judiciary Committee to investigate the judges who wouldn't play along with the circus.

I read somewhere earlier this week where tom DeLay pulled the plug on his own father who was suffering in from a similar ailment. Is he also now going to investigate himself? Or does he consider himself above the law he tries to enforce on others?
 
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Or is it more than likely just guilt on his part?
 
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Anyone ever seen the movie/ read the book Awakenings by Oliver Sacks? http://www.oliversacks.com/awake.htm Terri Schiavo has a different condition than these people, but it is interesting that people given up as hopeless can awaken again. The movie stars Robert de Niro and Robin Williams.
 
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Monique said:
Anyone ever seen the movie/ read the book Awakenings by Oliver Sacks? http://www.oliversacks.com/awake.htm Terri Schiavo has a different condition than these people, but it is interesting that people given up as hopeless can awaken again. The movie stars Robert de Niro and Robin Williams.

Great movie!
 
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