Plotting the Space-Time Continuum: Is it Possible?

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The discussion revolves around the possibility of graphically plotting the space-time continuum, exploring theoretical and practical representations. It includes references to specific types of diagrams used in physics and the challenges associated with visualizing four-dimensional space-time.

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  • One participant inquires about the feasibility of plotting the space-time continuum graphically.
  • Another participant mentions spacetime diagrams, specifically Minkowski diagrams, as a known representation.
  • It is noted that while certain diagrams like Minkowski, Kruskal, and Penrose diagrams can represent specific cases of spacetime, they have limitations, such as only being able to depict one space and one time dimension or being tailored to particular spacetimes.
  • A participant points out the challenge of representing four-dimensional space-time on two-dimensional media, often simplifying the representation to one spatial dimension.
  • One participant suggests that studying electromagnetic fields can provide analogies to visualize space-time, referencing Einstein's reliance on Maxwell's equations in his foundational papers.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying views on the possibility and methods of plotting space-time, with some acknowledging the existence of specific diagrams while others highlight the inherent limitations and challenges. No consensus is reached on a definitive method for graphical representation.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the inability to fully represent four-dimensional space-time in two dimensions, the specificity of diagrams to particular cases, and the potential for oversimplification in graphical representations.

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Plotting the space-time continuum graphically
How would one plot the space-time continuum graphically(if it were possible,obviously)?
 
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In general, you can't. In certain specific cases there are good representations. Peter has already mentioned Minkowski diagrams of flat spacetime. Kruskal diagrams represent the spacetime around non-rotating uncharged black holes. And Penrose diagrams can represent spacetime around more complicated black holes.

All of these have limitations. Notably, they can only represent one space and one time dimension (except the Minkowski diagram, which can be extended to two spatial dimensions). They also use strategies that are highly specific to particular spacetimes, and modifying them to work for others isn't necessarily possible.
 
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The real problem is that graphs (in books anyway) are on two dimensional paper while space-time is four dimensional! What is often done is to ignore two space dimensions so your graph really represents motion along a straight line.
 
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FireAP said:
Summary:: Plotting the space-time continuum graphically

How would one plot the space-time continuum graphically(if it were possible,obviously)?
I find studying and graphing electromagnetic fields theory helps visualize space-time, if only by analogy.

Einstein based much of his 1905 and 1915 papers on Maxwell's equations and related theory. One can measure and manipulate EM fields and derive beautiful plots and graphs subject to similar limitations described in previous posts for space-time graphs.
 

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