PMF for the sum of random variables

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The discussion centers on finding the probability mass function (PMF) for the sum of two independent uniform discrete random variables, Z = X + Y, where both X and Y take values between 1 and L. The initial approach suggests using convolution to derive the PMF, but there is confusion regarding the correct formulation. A geometric interpretation using a grid of outcomes is proposed, highlighting the need to visualize the problem for better understanding. However, there is a strong disagreement about the accuracy of the initial calculations, with calls for a reevaluation of the known results. The conversation emphasizes the importance of correctly applying convolution methods to determine the PMF.
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For a sum of two independent uniform discrete random variables, Z = X + Y, what is the probability mass function of Z? X and Y both take on values between 1 and L

I know that for the sum of independent rv's the PMF is a convolution
so...
Ʃ(1/k)(1/n-k) from k = 1 to L
but I'm wondering.. can this be simplified?
 
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these are good to do geometrically, consider the xy plane, we have LxL grid of discrete (X,Y) outcomes, each equi-probable, with probability 1/L^2

Lines of constant Z=z have a slope of -x, and the probability of Z will be the number of discrete points intersected by a constant

try drawing it, this should also help understand the analytic convolution method
 
No wonder you are having trouble: you are 100% wrong in what you are writing. Go back and apply known results correctly.

RGV
 
Ray Vickson said:
No wonder you are having trouble: you are 100% wrong in what you are writing. Go back and apply known results correctly.

RGV

For a sum of two independent uniform discrete random variables, Z = X + Y, what is the probability mass function of Z? X and Y both take on values between 1 and n

I know that for the sum of independent rv's the PMF is a convolution
so...
Ʃ(1/k)(1/n-k) from k = 1 to n
 
magnifik said:
For a sum of two independent uniform discrete random variables, Z = X + Y, what is the probability mass function of Z? X and Y both take on values between 1 and n

I know that for the sum of independent rv's the PMF is a convolution
so...
Ʃ(1/k)(1/n-k) from k = 1 to n

That is not the required convolution. I have no idea what it is.

RGV
 
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