News Point-Counterpoint: Political Issues

[Ivan Seeking]

It might be intersting to list only one point and counterpoint wrt to political issues. Of course a point or counterpoint can be used again as a point. Obscure quotes should be supported with a link. Personal opinions may be used as counterpoints or points, but please limit all statements to no more than two lines of text.

No other discussion please.

Point [McCain~]: I won't surrender in Iraq. I won't surrender to terrorists.

Counterpoint [Obama~] We need to be as careful getting out of Iraq as we were careless getting in. We need to create alliances so as to reduce the burden on the US. The war on terror is everyone's war.

 

[Evo]

I used to play Point - Counterpoint with my ex (based on the old 60 minute segment). I always played the devil's advocate. He didn't get it.

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[Ivan Seeking]

The classic Point Counterpoint!
http://video.aol.com/partner/hulu/s...helle-triola/L40MNT7XBfXlDBk9nZRykX6Er3EYMY5u

Okay, so we don't have to be entirely serious. Just no derailing with debates please.

 

[Gokul43201]

Ms. South Carolina: "I personally believe that U.S. Americans are unable to do so because, uhmm, some people out there in our nation don't have maps and uh, I believe that our, I, education like such as uh, South Africa, and uh, the Iraq, everywhere like such as, and I believe that they should, uhhh, our education over here in the US should help the U.S., umh, should help South Africa, it should help the Iraq and the Asian countries so we will be able to build up our future, for us."

GWB: "Because of your work, children who once wanted to die are now preparing to live." (Dec. 14, 2006)

 

[CaptainQuasar]

GWB: “We got issue in America. Too many good docs are getting out of business. Too many OB/GYNs aren't able to practice their... their love with women all across the country.” — Sept. 6, 2004

Michael Moore: “The United States is number 37 in health care around the world, just slightly ahead of Slovenia.” — http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sicko"

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[Astronuc]

Ms. South Carolina: "I personally believe that U.S. Americans are unable to do so because, uhmm, some people out there in our nation don't have maps and uh, I believe that our, I, education like such as uh, South Africa, and uh, the Iraq, everywhere like such as, and I believe that they should, uhhh, our education over here in the US should help the U.S., umh, should help South Africa, it should help the Iraq and the Asian countries so we will be able to build up our future, for us."

GWB: "Because of your work, children who once wanted to die are now preparing to live." (Dec. 14, 2006)

I'm lost. How is this point - counterpoint?

It seems more like an example of dumb and dumber!

 

[ShawnD]

GWB: "Because of your work, children who once wanted to die are now preparing to live." (Dec. 14, 2006)

wat?

What is the context of this?

 

[Ivan Seeking]

President Bush Attends White House Summit on Malaria

THE PRESIDENT: Thanks for inviting me to what sounded like a festive occasion. (Laughter.) I'm honored to be here. I'm pleased to visit with you all here at the National Geographic Society, and I am won't to thank you for inviting me to come to this important conference. I appreciate all of today's speakers, including my personal favorite -- (laughter) -- Laura.

As you conclude this summit, we turn our thoughts to those who carry the burden of sickness during this holiday season. There are members of our own families here in America who are ill, and they live in villages halfway around the world away. For many of their illnesses, there is a known relief -- for many there is no known relief. Yet for malaria, we know exactly what it takes to prevent and treat the disease. The only question is whether we have the will to act. All of you have heard the call to act -- and you have responded, and I appreciate your compassion.

Because of your work, children who once wanted [sic] to die are now preparing to live, and whole regions are replacing suffering and fear with hope and health. We can take pride in the progress we have made, and today we will renew our commitment to a world without malaria...

http://www.state.gov/g/oes/rls/rm/2006/77844.htm

 

[BobG]

wat?

Because of your work, children who once wanted [sic] to die are now preparing to live

What is the context of this?

President Bush Attends White House Summit on Malaria

THE PRESIDENT: Thanks for inviting me to what sounded like a festive occasion. (Laughter.) I'm honored to be here. I'm pleased to visit with you all here at the National Geographic Society, and I am won't to thank you for inviting me to come to this important conference. I appreciate all of today's speakers, including my personal favorite -- (laughter) -- Laura.

As you conclude this summit, we turn our thoughts to those who carry the burden of sickness during this holiday season. There are members of our own families here in America who are ill, and they live in villages halfway around the world away. For many of their illnesses, there is a known relief -- for many there is no known relief. Yet for malaria, we know exactly what it takes to prevent and treat the disease. The only question is whether we have the will to act. All of you have heard the call to act -- and you have responded, and I appreciate your compassion.

Because of your work, children who once wanted [sic] to die are now preparing to live, and whole regions are replacing suffering and fear with hope and health. We can take pride in the progress we have made, and today we will renew our commitment to a world without malaria...

http://www.state.gov/g/oes/rls/rm/2006/77844.htm

Thanks. For a minute, I was imagining Bush speaking at an anti-abortion rally.

 

[Ivan Seeking]

Gokul was having some fun here. Let's keep it on the level please.

 

[chemisttree]

Point: "Senator Clinton supports governors like Governor Spitzer who believe they need such a measure (drivers licenses for illegal aliens) to deal with the crisis caused by this administration's failure to pass comprehensive immigration reform," http://www.boston.com/news/nation/a..._drivers_license_plan_for_illegal_immigrants/

Counterpoint: "I support Governor Spitzer's decision today to withdraw his proposal," Clinton said in a statement. "As president, I will not support driver's licenses for undocumented people and will press for comprehensive immigration reform that deals with all of the issues around illegal immigration including border security and fixing our broken system." http://www.anchorrising.com/barnacles/004922.html

Who could argue with that?

 

[Ivan Seeking]

Point Romney: "John McCain is a dishonest and liberal Washington insider unworthy of the Republican presidential nomination".

Counterpoint Romney: "I endorse John McCain for President of the US".

The talking heads are having heart attacks! Even their "conservative" Romney has betrayed them.

 

[CaptainQuasar]

Point Romney: "John McCain is a dishonest and liberal Washington insider unworthy of the Republican presidential nomination".

Counterpoint Romney: "I endorse John McCain for President of the US".

LOL.

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[Ivan Seeking]

Point - March 2008:
[Narrator] It's 3 AM, and your children are safe and asleep. But there's a phone in the White House, and it's ringing. Something's happening in the world. Your vote will decide who answers that call, whether it's someone who already knows the world's leaders, knows the military, someone tested and ready to lead in a dangerous world. It's 3 AM, and your children are safe and asleep. Who do you want answering the phone?

[SEN. HILLARY CLINTON] I'm Hillary Clinton, and I approve this message.

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Counterpoint - October, 2004:
[FMR. PRES. CLINTON] Now, one of Clinton's laws of politics is this: If one candidate's trying to scare you and the other one's trying to get you to think, if one candidate's appealing to your fears and the other one's appealing to your hopes, you better vote for the person who wants you to think and hope.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23434169/page/4/