Polar to Cartesian conversion - how related?

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The discussion centers on converting the polar equation r = csc(θ) to its Cartesian form and understanding the relationship between y = 1 and r = csc(θ). The conversion process involves recognizing that r = 1/sin(θ) leads to y = 1 when graphed. There is confusion regarding the distinction between the polar representation and Cartesian coordinates, particularly how r = 1 does not equate to y = 1. The conversation clarifies that while r = csc(θ) and y = 1 represent the same horizontal line, the polar and Cartesian forms have different interpretations in their respective coordinate systems. Ultimately, the key takeaway is that both equations describe the same graph but in different formats.
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Homework Statement


Find the cartesian equation for the curve r=csctheta

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I understand how to get the answer, by changing it to r=1/sin, and then rsin=1, and then since y=rsin, then y=1.

What I'm not understanding is the relationship between y=1 an r=csc. I thought that when you convert to a cartesian equation, it's supposed to either look the same when graphed or be able to be used to plot the r and theta coordinates onto a polar plane. But y=1 translates to r=1 on a polar plane, and r=csc is nothing like that?? What am I not understanding here?
 
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Draw a cartesian coordinate system and draw the horizontal line y = 1. Then draw a line from the origin to the point (3,1) on your horizontal line and make that a radius vector r. Label the polar coordinate angle \theta in the proper position. Drop a line from your point (3,1) to the x-axis at (3,0) forming a little triangle with r and \theta as part of it. The sides of that triangle are r, 3, and 1 units long. Notice that for that triangle that

\csc\theta = \frac r 1

Then notice if you do the same thing using (x,1) instead of (3,1) you will still get

\csc\theta = \frac r 1

So that equation r =\csc\theta literally gives the same graph as y = 1.

[edit] fixed two typos
 
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Excellent! That helps a lot. But the last bit about using (x,1) - not sure how you're getting csc=r/x. Wouldn't it still be r/1?
 
Yes, that was probably a typo. It is precisely because csc(\theta)= r/1 that [/itex]r= (1)csc(\theta)[/itex].

"r= 1" is NOT "y= 1". It's graph is the circle with center at the origin and radius 1.
 
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Excellent! That helps a lot. But the last bit about using (x,1) - not sure how you're getting csc=r/x. Wouldn't it still be r/1?

Yes. That was a typo as Halls surmised. There was another one too. I'll fix both.
 
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