Potential C: can I minimize the damage to grad admissions?

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The discussion centers around concerns regarding the impact of a potential C grade in a semiconductor devices course on graduate school admissions for a junior in electrical engineering. Participants explore the implications of this grade in relation to the applicant's overall academic profile, including research experience and other coursework.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses concern that a C in a major upper-division course, particularly in semiconductor devices, may negatively affect graduate school admissions, especially since their interests lie in areas unrelated to this course.
  • Another participant questions the certainty of receiving a C and suggests that grading practices, such as curving, may mitigate the impact of a low score.
  • Some participants note that most graduate programs require a minimum GPA of 3.0 in upper-division courses, implying that one C may not significantly hinder admissions prospects.
  • Concerns are raised about how unrelated a course must be to the applicant's intended field of study for a low grade to be less impactful on admissions decisions.
  • A participant reassures that a single C, especially if it is an isolated incident, is unlikely to prevent admission to a good graduate program.
  • There is acknowledgment of the uncertainty surrounding the applicant's performance relative to peers and the potential for a curve to affect final grades.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of concerns and reassurances regarding the implications of a C grade. While some believe it could be detrimental, others argue that it may not significantly impact admissions, indicating that multiple competing views remain.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the importance of context in evaluating the impact of a C grade, including grading practices and the relevance of the course to the applicant's intended field of study. There is also uncertainty about the applicant's actual performance and how it compares to peers.

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I absolutely bombed my first test so far since I started college (Junior in EE). The test was in a semiconductor devices course (theory of semiconductor devices), so it is a course in my major, and it is an upper division course. I wouldn't be worried if it was in another department, but since it's an electrical engineering course, I'm worried about how it will affect my master's admissions. Some background: my areas of interest (electromagnetics, control, DSP) have virtually nothing to do with semiconductor device physics, so will a C in that class affect me very much (especially compared to if I got a C in a relevant class)?

And, obviously, yes, I am addressing the issues that led to me bombing the test in the first place, and I'm confident I'll perform well during the rest of the semester.

Also of note: I'll have had 3.5 years of research experience, an A in all of my other classes (hopefully), probably a graduate course or two (hopefully with A's), and strong letters of recommendation by the time I'm applying for graduate school. I know, however, that people always say grad schools take upper-division major courses into consideration for decisions, so given all of the above, will a C in this class be something that will hold me back or that I should address in a statement of purpose or something?

Final note: The programs I have in mind range from about ~10 to ~40 in ranking (so I have no plans to shoot for MIT/Stanford or anything, but strong programs nonetheless).
 
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axmls said:
I absolutely bombed my first test so far since I started college (Junior in EE). The test was in a semiconductor devices course (theory of semiconductor devices), so it is a course in my major, and it is an upper division course. I wouldn't be worried if it was in another department, but since it's an electrical engineering course, I'm worried about how it will affect my master's admissions. Some background: my areas of interest (electromagnetics, control, DSP) have virtually nothing to do with semiconductor device physics, so will a C in that class affect me very much (especially compared to if I got a C in a relevant class)?

And, obviously, yes, I am addressing the issues that led to me bombing the test in the first place, and I'm confident I'll perform well during the rest of the semester.

Also of note: I'll have had 3.5 years of research experience, an A in all of my other classes (hopefully), probably a graduate course or two (hopefully with A's), and strong letters of recommendation by the time I'm applying for graduate school. I know, however, that people always say grad schools take upper-division major courses into consideration for decisions, so given all of the above, will a C in this class be something that will hold me back or that I should address in a statement of purpose or something?

Final note: The programs I have in mind range from about ~10 to ~40 in ranking (so I have no plans to shoot for MIT/Stanford or anything, but strong programs nonetheless).

Are you positive you're going to earn a C in this class? Did others in the class perform much better? It may be that professor gives purposeful hard exams so that a low score isn't technically a low score after all.

The entry for most graduate programs stipulate that you have a 3.0 GPA in upper division courses, so in perspective, one C isn't likely to damage your aspirations of graduate school. In addition, most EE master degrees are self funded, so it's also not likely you're going to be barred from paying the school more money because you got one C.
 
Student100 said:
Are you positive you're going to earn a C in this class? Did others in the class perform much better? It may be that professor gives purposeful hard exams so that a low score isn't technically a low score after all.

The entry for most graduate programs stipulate that you have a 3.0 GPA in upper division courses, so in perspective, one C isn't likely to damage your aspirations of graduate school. In addition, most EE master degrees are self funded, so it's also not likely you're going to be barred from paying the school more money because you got one C.

I'm thinking worst-case scenario. The professor is notorious for curving massive amounts, which is bad because there's a lot of uncertainty in my grade. I don't know how I did in relation to others, so it's a possibility that I do badly, but also possible to do about average.

I'm aware admissions don't take it as seriously if a low grade is in an unrelated field, but I'm concerned about how unrelated that has to be. This class is electrical engineering, but it's a very different type of electrical engineering compared to what I'd like to study in grad school.
 
axmls said:
I'm thinking worst-case scenario. The professor is notorious for curving massive amounts, which is bad because there's a lot of uncertainty in my grade. I don't know how I did in relation to others, so it's a possibility that I do badly, but also possible to do about average.

I'm aware admissions don't take it as seriously if a low grade is in an unrelated field, but I'm concerned about how unrelated that has to be. This class is electrical engineering, but it's a very different type of electrical engineering compared to what I'd like to study in grad school.

You're suffering from perfectionist syndrome, one C- no matter how related it is to your field- isn't going to suddenly close the door to obtaining a masters from a good school. As long as it's an isolated event, you shouldn't worry.

You don't even know how badly you performed, don't dwell on it and just continue to do well.
 

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