Potential difference: positive or negative?

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The discussion centers on the concept of potential difference in an electric field, specifically addressing why a positive test charge is assumed when determining potential. The potential difference between points A and B is confirmed to be negative when a positive test charge is used, as indicated by the equation V_B - V_A = - ∫_A^B E·ds. The electric field is defined as the force per unit charge exerted on a stationary test particle. While a negative charge can be placed in an electric field, it cannot be termed a "test charge," which is always positive by definition.

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Why potential at a point can only be obtained by supposing/assuming a positive test charge there?
For example
There was a question
In figure two points A and B are located in a region of electric field.,The potential difference ##VB##-##VA## is
1-positive
2-Negative
3-zero
4-none of the above
the answer is 2-Negative
Apparently the source charge is positive
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we will only get the answer to be 2-Negative when we would assume positive test charge but if we assume negative test charge at A &B we are going to get answer 1-positive.So is it like we are bound to assume positive charge at points mentioned in question to get whether potential difference is positive or negative?
 
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Yes. The "test charge" is always positive, by definition.
 
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The figure shows the electric field lines.
How is the electric field at a point defined?
 
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ehild said:
How is the electric field at a point defined?
Force per unit charge.
The electric field
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at a given point is defined as the (vectorial) force
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that would be exerted on a stationary test particle of unit charge by electromagnetic forces
 
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And we are told to put negative charge there(in electric field ) in that case we can ,right?
 
gracy said:
And we are told to put negative charge there(in electric field ) in that case we can ,right?
You can put a negative charge into any electric field. Do it. And what do you do after?
 
ehild said:
You can put a negative charge into any electric field.
But it can not be called "test charge",right?
 
Correct. A test charge is always positive.
 
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The potential difference between points A and B (or any two points) does not depend on the test charge used. The relation is standard

V_B - V_A = - \int_A^B \overrightarrow{E}.d\overrightarrow{s}

You can use a negative or positive test charge and multiply both sides of the above relation with the charge. The equation will change to a relation between the difference of potential energies, and the work done by the electrostatic force. In case my Latex is not clear, there is a dot product between the electric field and the infinitesimal displacement in the integral, and the integral is over any path joining points A and B. It does not matter whether you "call" it a test charge or not. The fact is that you can use either positive or negative charges.
 

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