Potential due to a line charge

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the electric potential due to a line charge distributed along the x-axis from +a to -a. Participants explore the integration process involved in deriving the potential and express uncertainty regarding the correctness of the resulting expression.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes an expression for the potential, phi(x), derived from integration, but expresses doubt about its correctness and the potential omission of an integration constant.
  • Another participant questions the use of variables and the presence of dx in the derivation, indicating confusion about the treatment of the variable a.
  • A third participant clarifies that the charge density should be treated as constant, suggesting that the integration should involve the distance from the point of interest to the infinitesimal charge, leading to a different variable of integration.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus, as there are multiple competing views on the correct approach to integrating the potential and the treatment of charge density.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved issues regarding the assumptions made in the integration process, particularly concerning the treatment of charge density and the variables used in the calculations.

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Suppose you have a line charge Q along the x-axis from +a to -a. Simple integration should give the potential at any point x as:

phi(x) = 1/(4pi epsilon) Q/L loge((x+a)/(x-a))

= 1/(4pi epsilon) Q/L loge((x+xdx)/(x-xdx))

= 1/(4pi epsilon) Q/L loge((1+dx)/(1-dx))

So there's no longer any x dependance?

I now doubt that the expression is right, even though it seems to be a standard result. Perhaps I've missed out the integration constant
 
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I don't understand what you are doing here, what happened to a and why do you have dx?
 
Born2bwire said:
I don't understand what you are doing here, what happened to a and why do you have dx?

a = x dx. I could rewrite it as a = x b if it makes things clearer. After thinking about it further, the problem is that the charge density is now rho = Q/2a = Q/xdx and so I can no longer take it outside of the integral as a constant.
 
If rho is Q/2a then this means the charge density is constant. You need to integrate dq/r where r is the distance from x to the infinitesimal charge dq. dq = (Q/2a)dx' and r = x-x' so your variable of integration is x' not x.
 

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