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The discussion centers on calculating the electric field component Ey(R) at a point R, located 48 cm from the origin, due to an infinitely long solid insulating cylinder and a concentric conducting shell. The insulating cylinder has a charge density of 28 μC/m³ and a radius of 4.3 cm, while the conducting shell has an inner radius of 10.1 cm and a linear charge density of -0.34 μC/m. The calculation involves applying Gauss's law, where the net charge is determined to be approximately 7.22495 μC, leading to an electric field strength of 270,935.82 N/C at point R. The discussion highlights confusion regarding the correct area for applying Gauss's law, specifically the need to use the circumference of the cylindrical Gaussian surface.

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Homework Statement


An infinitely long solid insulating cylinder of radius a = 4.3 cm is positioned with its symmetry axis along the z-axis as shown. The cylinder is uniformly charged with a charge density ρ = 28 μC/m3. Concentric with the cylinder is a cylindrical conducting shell of inner radius b = 10.1 cm, and outer radius c = 12.1 cm. The conducting shell has a linear charge density λ = -0.34μC/m.

1) What is Ey(R), the y-component of the electric field at point R, located a distance d = 48 cm from the origin along the y-axis as shown?

Homework Equations


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ρ = Qin/V
V = 2πRL (Disregard L if I take it at 1m)
λ = Qout/L (L @ 1m) so λ = Q
Gauss - ∫E⋅dA = Qenclosed/∈0
Agauss = 2πRa < May be area of confusion

The Attempt at a Solution


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Qin = 2π(.043)(28x10-6 = 7.56495X10-6
Qout = λ = -.34x10-6
Qnet = 7.22495x10-6
E = (Qnet4πk)/2πRd
= 270935.816619 N/C

I think I might be having trouble determining where to place the outside of the Gaussian surface. I'm assuming the different fields are at:
-outside of outer conductor
-with in conductor = 0
-at inner surface of conducting shell
-between conductor and inner insulator
-surface of inner insulator
-and within the inner insulator
I think I remember seeing something different, but I'm not sure. I blasted through a similar problem last night, and somehow finished the section on Gauss' law but now I seem to have forgotten everything.
 

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Did you already do an exercise like this but with spheres ? If you place your Gaussian surface as a cylinder around the z axis through point R, what does the theorem tell you about ##\vec E## ?
 
hashbrowns808 said:
Agauss = 2πRa < May be area of confusion
It is indeed an area of confusion. Your expression for the area is incorrect and does not even have the correct dimensions. In fact, it is the circumference of a circle of radius Ra. You need the total area through which electric field lines emerge.
 
kuruman said:
It is indeed an area of confusion. Your expression for the area is incorrect and does not even have the correct dimensions. In fact, it is the circumference of a circle of radius Ra. You need the total area through which electric field lines emerge.
I think the poster realizes that, from
hashbrowns808 said:
Disregard L if I take it at 1m
 
hashbrowns808 said:
E = (Qnet4πk)/2πRd
I don't see this one in your relevant equations. I recognize the 2πRd and the 4πk but I don't see a Q there, only a ##\lambda## :rolleyes:
 
BvU said:
I think the poster realizes that, from ...
Right you are. I saw OP's earlier "V = 2πRL (Disregard L if I take it at 1m)" and I took that to be the area despite the symbol "V" defining it. I now see that this is meant as a volume, except that it's incorrect.
 

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