Potential of Concentric Cylindrical Insulator and Conducting Shell

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The discussion revolves around the electric potential and electric field associated with a system of concentric cylindrical insulators and conducting shells. The problem involves calculating the electric field at a specific point and the potential differences between various points in the system, given specific charge densities and geometrical configurations.

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  • Participants discuss the conversion of charge densities to linear charge densities to facilitate calculations of the electric field. There are attempts to derive equations for the electric field and potential differences, with some participants expressing confusion about the integration process required for potential calculations.

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Potential of Concentric Cylindrical Insulator and Conducting Shell...Please Help

Homework Statement



An infinitely long solid insulating cylinder of radius a = 3.6 cm is positioned with its symmetry axis along the z-axis as shown. The cylinder is uniformly charged with a charge density ρ = 40 μC/m3. Concentric with the cylinder is a cylindrical conducting shell of inner radius b = 18.9 cm, and outer radius c = 23.9 cm. The conducting shell has a linear charge density λ = -0.4μC/m. An infinitely long solid insulating cylinder of radius a = 3.6 cm is positioned with its symmetry axis along the z-axis as shown. The cylinder is uniformly charged with a charge density ρ = 40 μC/m3. Concentric with the cylinder is a cylindrical conducting shell of inner radius b = 18.9 cm, and outer radius c = 23.9 cm. The conducting shell has a linear charge density λ = -0.4μC/m.


Homework Equations


What is Ey(R), the y-component of the electric field at point R, located a distance d = 58 cm from the origin along the y-axis as shown?

What is V(P) – V(R), the potential difference between points P and R? Point P is located at (x,y) = (58 cm, 58 cm).

What is V(c) - V(a), the potentital difference between the outer surface of the conductor and the outer surface of the insulator?



The Attempt at a Solution



I'm having trouble converting the charge density ρ = 40 μC/m3 and λ = -0.4μC/m to Q in order to find the electric field at point R due to the insulating and conducting cylinders. Please let me know what you think. There is a diagram attached.
 

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I am also stuck on this problem, have you figured it out yet?
 


To get the E field, you need to manipulate the volume density. Say p = volume density.

We need to get two lambdas so we can use the equation E = 2k(lambda cylinder + lambda shell)/r

Where r is equal to the distance of the point. To get the linear density of the cylinder, whose p is 40, we need to multiply p by the area of the cylinder (just the circle, ignore length).

Then you plug the new lambda value into the E field equation and you have the E field. The rest should be pretty easy if you understand potential.

I'm also in this class (U of I, PHYS 212), if you guys want to get in contact about future homework, feel free.
 


Thanks I understand what you did there, but I am still confused as to how to get the potential at points R and P. Could you please explain how to get those values.
 


scef333 said:
Thanks I understand what you did there, but I am still confused as to how to get the potential at points R and P. Could you please explain how to get those values.

Ok, so your equation E = 2k(lambda)/r must be integrated over the right distance to find potential.

So the potential at point R is 2klambda(ln(r)), where r is equal to .58 meters.

Potential at point P is the same thing, but with a different radius since it is at (.58, .58) (hint: use Pythagorean theorem).

After you find those two, subtract.
 


Hey I was just wondering how you did part 3 of V(c)-V(a) because I tried to do it like in part 2 but it didn't work and I'm really stuck on this.
 

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