Power a led with piezoelectricty

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around powering an LED using a piezoelectric disk. Participants explore the feasibility of this setup, troubleshooting issues related to voltage and current output, and share experiences and suggestions for successful combinations of components.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant reports that their piezo disk does not power the LED, which only lights up with a 9V battery.
  • Another suggests that the piezo disk may not be providing sufficient voltage or current, or that the duration of the output may be too short for the LED to light up.
  • Questions arise about how videos demonstrating successful LED lighting with piezo disks are achieved, with some suggesting that the right combination of disk and LED is crucial.
  • A participant expresses surprise at the ability of small piezo disks to produce enough current to flash an LED, noting the force applied in demonstrations.
  • Suggestions include trying different types of LEDs, particularly green ones, and experimenting with multiple piezo disks to increase output.
  • Participants discuss the importance of polarity and recommend testing connections with a multimeter to identify the correct terminals on the piezo disk.
  • One participant shares a method to test the piezo disk using an earpiece to detect sound output, indicating a potential way to verify functionality.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express uncertainty regarding the specific requirements for successfully powering an LED with a piezo disk. There is no consensus on the best approach or combination of components, and multiple viewpoints on troubleshooting methods are presented.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the lack of clear information on the specific types of LEDs that work best with the piezo disks, as well as the potential variability in piezo disk performance based on factors like size and material.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in DIY electronics, particularly those exploring alternative power sources or experimenting with piezoelectric materials and LED applications.

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I hae aqiured a piezo disk and LEDS but it will not power them. i do not know if it is the disk or an led. I tried the LED with AA AAA and D batteries but only turned on with 9V they are sea green
 
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Without that description, it is hard to find out, but I would expect one of those reasons:
- voltage too low
- current too low
- time the piezo disks supply that voltage and current too short

The LED should need something like ~2-3V.
 
so how do all the videos on youtube of someone poking a disk and the led soldered to it lighting up work?
 
ninja.lion said:
so how do all the videos on youtube of someone poking a disk and the led soldered to it lighting up work?

They've chosen a combination of disk and LED that will work - the disk produces enough voltage and current to activate that LED.
 
how would you find a combo like that
 
ninja.lion said:
so how do all the videos on youtube of someone poking a disk and the led soldered to it lighting up work?
Can you provide a link to a good one?
 
 
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ninja.lion said:

I'm surprised to see that small piezo produce sufficient current to flash a LED. He doesn't seem to be tapping it with much force, either.
 
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My disks are 3.7 cm in diameter what type of led should i use.

by the way thanks for the help
 
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Try it at night in the dark, to see whether you can discern any flash.

I'm not sure whether polarity must be observed, but try reversing the leads.

This somewhat dated reference says that Green LEDS based on InGaN technology work the best for low currents. http://donklipstein.com/ledlocu.html

The LED in that youtube video was green. Does the author there indicate what he used?
 
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thank you very much I will try with green LED I will also try using more than one disk at a time. just wondering i sodor the WIRES to to metal disk and the smaller part of the crystal disk that is seprsted from the rest
 
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If you are unsure which are the terminals, try connecting a multimeter (voltmeter) between the likely places, and tap the piezo. I expect you'll see a voltage jump when you have the right spots.
 
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i tried that no voltage
 
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ninja.lion said:
i tried that no voltage
You tapped it while you had the voltmeter connected? Maybe that piezo is dead, do you have another one to try?

Do you have an unwanted radio earpiece (or phone earpiece)? Try connecting two wires from the piezo to two of the earpiece plug connections. Hold the earpiece near your ear, not in it, then tap the piezo. I don't know whether this will work, but with luck you'll hear a click. You'll have to experiment to find the right connector pair on the plug. As you'll see, you need 4 or 5 hands to perform this.

If this doesn't work, then I think I'm out of ideas. You don't have access to an oscilloscope, do you? If the piezo is working, the voltage would show up well on it.
 

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