Power Electronics: Choppers RLE Load

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The discussion centers on calculating the average source current and input resistance for a chopper circuit with an RLE load, specifically using triangular waveform analysis. Participants utilized the formula for average current, integrating over a time period of 10 seconds with a duty cycle of 0.5, resulting in an average source current of 14.7 A and an input resistance of 13.6 ohms. Discrepancies in expected values led to speculation about potential printing errors in the problem statement, particularly concerning the maximum and minimum current values. The conversation also touched on the appropriateness of using triangular versus exponential waveforms for analysis.

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Homework Statement


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Homework Equations


I rms for triangular waveform = I(max)/ (1.732)
R = V/I

The Attempt at a Solution


Since there is RLE load, current waveform is triangular. It is
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Source current is
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Average of I source. I used integration. Assumed Time period = 10 seconds. So T on = 5 seconds. (question says duty = 0.5)

So integrating I got average source current = 14.7 A
Average source voltage = 200 V
So input resistance = 200 / 14.7 = 13.6A

But I'm not able to get the first one. I get answer as 26.33 A But that is not even in the option.
I used formula square I(load) = square dc component (26.05) + square (rms of triangular waveform)
 

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It says minimum is 32.75A and maximum is 26.05A. Something seems wrong, since we expect max > min.

So I'd say there's a printing error, maybe two, and in either the data or the answer options. Would (A) 26.17A satisfy you? If not, you could play around with various changes in the answers to see whether you can stumble across consistent values.
 
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Yes the printing error occurred to me as well. I guess only the max n min words should be exchanged. Cause I'm getting right answer for second part of question.
How do you get 30.17A as answer?
 
I looked for a single digit to change that would turn what's printed into something close to what you're looking for.
 
Book says answer is A.
Is this correct method?
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Your calculations are probably right. You answered while I was still adjusting my comment. I settled on 26.17 as a likely option.

Maybe if you worked it out exactly, using the exponentials instead of approximating to straight lines, it might match the 26.17A answer exactly?
 
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So instead of triangular ur saying exponential waveform? e-Rt/L?
 
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So instead of triangular ur saying exponential waveform? e-Rt/L?
Well, only if you want to test whether my hunch is right. :oldsmile: The homework would not expect you to, the triangular approximation is fine. Though in the real world you should show that the triangular approximation is justified and not simply assume it is, i.e., not just hope it is.
 
I got something like this:
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I guess triangular waveform is justified when the inductance is very big. If resistance is very big then waveform of current = waveform of voltage = square.
I'm getting integrating value as 27.6A
How did you integrate so fast?
 
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I haven't worked out an answer. I see insufficient information given to do so, in this instance.

The rising exponential, A(1-e-t/T) has magnitude A = (200-E)/R – 26.05
and T = L/R = unspecified
and passes through the point 6.7 at t=?? (5ms your nomination)

Too many unknowns to evaluate to a number, I think.
 
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I assumed T to be 10 seconds and since duty cycle is 0.5 we get inductor storing energy for 5 seconds and releasing energy for 5 seconds.
 

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