Powering a Device with AAA Batteries and USB

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around powering a device that typically uses two AAA batteries with a USB power source. Participants explore the voltage and current specifications of both power sources and consider methods to adapt USB output to meet the device's requirements.

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  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that AAA batteries provide 1.5 volts and suggests using USB, which supplies 5 volts, to power the device instead.
  • Another participant asks about the current requirements of the device and whether it conforms to USB specifications, suggesting the use of a resistor to drop voltage.
  • A different participant infers that the batteries are likely NiCd or NiMH based on their capacity and states that the device requires approximately 2.4 to 2.6 volts.
  • This participant proposes using four silicon diodes in series to drop the USB voltage to a suitable level for the device.
  • One participant inquires about how to determine the current draw of the device.
  • Another participant recommends using a multimeter to measure current and provides links to affordable options for such meters.
  • A later reply discusses the current supply capabilities of USB ports, indicating that while USB hosts can supply at least 100 mA, the maximum current can vary based on the host's capabilities.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants have not reached a consensus on the best method to power the device via USB, and multiple approaches are suggested, indicating ongoing debate and exploration of the topic.

Contextual Notes

There are uncertainties regarding the exact current draw of the device, and the discussion includes various assumptions about the types of batteries and the specifications of USB power sources.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for individuals interested in electronics, particularly those looking to adapt power sources for devices or seeking to understand the specifications and limitations of USB power delivery.

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so i have a device which uses 2 AAA batteries. i don't like charging batteries all the time so instead i want to power the device via usb.

a AAA battery: 1.5 volts and 300-1000 mAh (milliampere hours)
usb has 5 volts and max current is 500-900 mA

how do i do this?
 
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What current does the device need? Does it fit USB specification?

Knowing internal resistance of the device you may be able to add a resistor in series, so that 3V are for the device and 2V are lost on the resistor.
 
Since you know the amp-hour capacity of your batteries, I guess they must be NiCd or NiMH and not alkalines, because alkalines do not have this written on them.

So, you need about 2.4 volts - 2.6 volts

You will need to know the current that your device draws. I think the limit for USB is 500 mA, so if your device draws more than that, you should not use USB.

Probably the easiest way of doing this is to put 4 silicon diodes (1N4007s or similar) in series from the +5 volts. These diodes can handle up to 1 amp. This is more than USB can deliver.

This will drop about 2.4 volts leaving you with about 2.6 volts which is similar to the output of two rechargeable AAA cells. This 2.4 volts is fairly constant but it does increase with greater current.
 
how do i find out how much current the device draws?
 
What is it?

If you want to do any electronics, you are going to need a multimeter. Have a look at these ones:
http://www.harborfreight.com/catalogsearch/result?category=&q=multimeter
There is one there for less than $4 which would be quite OK for this.

You can get similar digital meters at other Electronics stores or get them on Ebay like this:
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/New-LCD-Digital-Voltmeter-Ammeter-Ohm-Multimeter-DT830B-/260517261237?pt=AU_B_I_Electrical_Test_Equipment&hash=item3ca809efb5
Posted to your door for about $4.

To measure current, you have to put the meter (which is set to measure current, on the highest range to start with) in series with one side of the battery.
 
USB hosts will supply at least 100 mA at a nominal 5V. Call it greater than 4.6 to 5.0V. The 500 mA capability a potential USB host can supply is determined by negociation with the host. You're not going to design your own USB device capable of communicating with the host, so presume 100 mA for low power devices with USB hosting. However, you can presume that the USB port can supply 500 mA out of something like a PC but crash something less powerful than a PC.

If you just want to charge from a PC assume you can get 4.6-5.0 volts drawing 500 mA maximum current.
 
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