Powering My Car's Electric Turbo: Alternators & Battery Charge

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The discussion revolves around the feasibility of powering an electric turbo (or supercharger) in a car, specifically addressing the requirements for alternators and battery charge. Participants explore various options for installation and the implications of power draw on the vehicle's electrical system.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the possibility of installing a separate alternator dedicated to the electric turbo and seeks guidance on how to do so.
  • Another participant clarifies that the electric turbo is essentially an electric supercharger and questions the specifications of the motor being used.
  • A suggestion is made that if the vehicle is not suitable for modifications, it may be better to consult someone experienced or to purchase a modification kit.
  • Concerns are raised about the existing alternator's capacity to provide the necessary current, noting that vehicle specifications are needed to assess compatibility.
  • One participant mentions that a normal supercharger can draw significant power from the engine, while the electric turbo's power requirement is relatively low, estimating it to be around 0.3 hp.
  • Another participant suggests that the existing alternator may have enough capacity to handle the additional load, estimating that 240W would require under 20A.
  • Links to external resources are provided for dual alternator kits and additional information.
  • Some participants express skepticism about the electric turbo's ability to provide a noticeable power increase, questioning its effectiveness compared to conventional systems.
  • There is a discussion about the role of electric turbos as a potential booster for power, likening them to nitrous oxide systems.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the practicality and effectiveness of using an electric turbo. While some acknowledge the feasibility of installation, others question the overall benefit and power return of such a system. No consensus is reached regarding the best approach to powering the electric turbo.

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Participants note the importance of vehicle specifications and existing alternator capabilities, which remain unspecified. The discussion includes assumptions about the electric turbo's role and power requirements, which may vary based on individual vehicle setups.

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I need 240 watts to power an electric turbo.
I need 240 watts to power an electric turbo on my car. Can I install a separate alternator dedicated to the electric turbo only, and if so how? Or do I need only one high watt alternator, and what about battery charge?
 
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joseph707 said:
I need 240 watts to power an electric turbo on my car.
A “turbo” is a "turbo-charger" which has an exhaust turbine driving the air pump. You want to replace the turbine with an electric motor, which makes it an electric “super-charger”.

You can do any of the things you suggest. Do you have room for another alternator? What are the specifications for the electric motor on the super-charger you will use?
 
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joseph707 said:
Can I install a separate alternator dedicated to the electric turbo only, and if so how?
Unless you have some experience in this kind of modifications/tuning and/or it's already some 'does not matter' kind of vehicle, I suggest to find somebody who already made similar feats (or buy a modkit, with detailed instructions, if available).

These kind of things are dangerous enough on their own: done by somebody inexperienced would not help.
 
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joseph707 said:
Or do I need only one high watt alternator, and what about battery charge?
We cannot tell if your existing alternator can provide the current, because we do not know the make and model of the vehicle or alternator. Alternator catalogues often list compatible alternators with different capacity. It is possible that replacing filament headlamps with LEDs could provide the extra current needed without replacing the alternator.
 
A normal supercharger can draw up to 20% of engine power, eg 40hp from a 200hp engine.

Your electric one draws 240W, or about 0.3 hp, or about 1/100 that of a conventional type. I can’t imagine it would return a noticeable amount of power.

In any case, 240W requires somewhere under 20A, and would be drawn ‘on boost’ so I would guess your alternator already has enough headroom to cope.
 
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Guineafowl said:
I can’t imagine it would return a noticeable amount of power.

This company:
http://www.supergen.co.uk/default.asp?contentID=589

Sells them and the smallest one they sell is a 10kW unit. It comes with an integrated 5kW generator. You also need another battery installed.

0.24kW does seem a bit small.

BoB
 
Guineafowl said:
I can’t imagine it would return a noticeable amount of power.
rbelli1 said:
0.24kW does seem a bit small.
That is what I thought also at first, but - if I understood correctly - they are used as a booster shot of power, a little bit like nitrous oxide systems are used.
 
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