Prediction of Newton's third law

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Newton's third law, stating that for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction, is viewed as a postulate that must be accepted and tested through experiments. It is suggested that Newton's insights stemmed from the conservation of momentum, which is based on consistent experimental observations. The law implies that in a closed system, such as the universe, the net force is zero. Historical figures like Descartes and Huygens influenced Newton's understanding of momentum and its conservation during collisions. Ultimately, the discussion emphasizes the importance of empirical validation in establishing physical laws.
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How did Newton predict his third law? If we take the system as the whole universe Newton's third law leads that the net force of the system is zero.Did Newton have an insight about this?
 
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Newton's third law is simply a postulate. It must simply be accepted, and then the conclusions drawn from it are put to the test. If the test confirms the postulate, then you've got a good postulate.

It's a fairly intuitive one at that. Certainly if I punch a wall, I might do some damage to the wall, but the wall also does damage to me.
 
amjad-sh said:
How did Newton predict his third law? If we take the system as the whole universe Newton's third law leads that the net force of the system is zero.Did Newton have an insight about this?
By observation, like all physical laws, you can try out this expirement by yourself, try you push the wall, you'll notice that it's pushing you too. How do you jump ? You simply apply some force on the ground downward and it pushes you upward ! By repeating the same expirement, one can suggest that for any given force there is some reaction.
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amjad-sh said:
How did Newton predict his third law?

I think he started from conservation of momentum and the third law is a simple method to keep momentum constant. Of course the next question is: How did Newton predict conservation of momentum? Here I agree with Noctisdark that it results from experimental observations. As nobody ever observed that something changes its momentum without external interactions it is obvious to use this as an universal principle.
 
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DrStupid said:
I think he started from conservation of momentum and the third law is a simple method to keep momentum constant. Of course the next question is: How did Newton predict conservation of momentum? Here I agree with Noctisdark that it results from experimental observations. As nobody ever observed that something changes its momentum without external interactions it is obvious to use this as an universal principle.

Indeed, I believe this is correct. Newton respected, and was aware of, both Descartes and Huygens work. Both gentlemen (Descartes incorrectly, and Huygens correctly) formulated versions of the principle of conservation of momentum for collisions. It is not a stretch to cast this in terms of 'action' and 'reaction.'
 
axmls said:
Newton's third law is simply a postulate. It must simply be accepted, and then the conclusions drawn from it are put to the test. If the test confirms the postulate, then you've got a good postulate.
Although technically correct, there are infinite postulates possible from where to choose. Generally speaking, one postulate things after some observations and experiments.
 
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