Prerequisites for degree in materials science

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the prerequisites for pursuing a degree in materials science, comparing the requirements in the UK and the USA. It addresses the necessary high school subjects and grades, as well as the structure of degree programs in both countries.

Discussion Character

  • Comparative analysis, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that in the UK, good A-level grades in maths, physics, and chemistry are typically required for a BSc or MEng in Materials Science, with some universities offering foundation courses for those lacking specific subjects.
  • In the US, it is mentioned that most materials science programs are housed within engineering colleges, with high school preparation generally requiring 4 years of math, science, and English, along with 2-3 years of social science and foreign language.
  • One participant highlights that while calculus is recommended for high school students aiming for engineering, it is not universally required, especially at less selective colleges.
  • Another participant points out that the structure of a BS in Materials Science and Engineering in the US typically spans four years, with general education courses in the first year and the option to declare a major in the second year.
  • One contributor asserts that in the US, having a high school diploma allows students to major in any program without needing specific high school classes.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the necessity of specific high school classes for declaring a major in the US, with some asserting that there are no strict requirements while others suggest that certain subjects are beneficial or expected.

Contextual Notes

The discussion reflects variability in high school curricula across different regions in the US, which may affect preparedness for college-level materials science programs.

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In the UK you would need good grades at A-levels (age 18) in maths, physics and chemistry to start a three year BSc or four year MEng in Materials science. Some universities offer an additional 1 year foundation course if you don't quite have the required grades or possibly a missing subject.

Whats the equivalent in the USA? Can you start such a degree with missing subjects? What level of maths do you need? Calculus?
 
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In the US most materials science programs are in engineering colleges (usually a part of a larger university); the required high school preparation tends to be the same for all majors in an engineering college (in the US, many or perhaps most colleges allow students to pick their majors after a year or two of college). The high school requirements are typically 4 years each of math, science and English, and 2-3 years each of social science and foreign language. Most engineering colleges expect students to have taken biology, chemistry and physics with labs; calculus in high school would be recommended but not required by many colleges, especially the less selective ones. The more selective colleges expect to see the "most rigorous" versions of those classes offered by an applicant's high school - but no two high schools in the US are the same. Some offer a bunch of honors and/or advanced placement (AP) science and math classes, while some high schools just have one version of any given course and it may not be rigorous at all. I went to college with students that could not take calculus in high school because it was not offered! And different high schools will cover different material at different levels in classes with the identical title. We have no equivalent to A-levels.

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CWatters said:
In the UK you would need good grades at A-levels (age 18) in maths, physics and chemistry to start a three year BSc or four year MEng in Materials science. Some universities offer an additional 1 year foundation course if you don't quite have the required grades or possibly a missing subject.

Whats the equivalent in the USA? Can you start such a degree with missing subjects? What level of maths do you need? Calculus?
In the US, studies in materials are typically offered in a consolidated Department of Materials Science and Engineering, usually in a school of engineering, that grants a BS in Materials Science and Engineering. There are some exceptions. Also, in the US, a BS degree is typically structured as a 4-year program. The first year courses typically comprise general education requirements, and a student doesn't need to declare a major until the second year. Again, there are exceptions. Each university sets its own prerequisites for admission.
 
If you have a high school degree, you can major in whatever program you want here.
I have never heard of needing specific classes from high school to declare a major in the US.
 

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