Pressure at Height: Calculate Pressure Change

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The discussion revolves around calculating pressure change at different heights using the barometric formula in the context of gas behavior. Participants are exploring the relationship between pressure and height in a fluid dynamics scenario.

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  • Participants express uncertainty about the initial steps in applying the barometric formula. There are attempts to manipulate the formula to find a relationship between pressures at different heights. Questions arise regarding the accuracy of values used, particularly the molar mass of nitrogen gas.

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Some participants have provided guidance on checking significant digits and have confirmed calculations, while others continue to express confusion about the correctness of their results. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored, particularly regarding the application of the barometric formula.

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Participants are working with specific values for molar mass and constants, and there is mention of an attachment that may contain additional problem context. The discussion reflects a learning environment where assumptions and definitions are being questioned.

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The Attempt at a Solution


I am not sure how to start with this problem. Do I need to use the barometric formula?

Barometric formula:
[tex]p=p_0exp\left(\frac{-Mgh}{RT_0}\right)[/tex]
 

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Pranav-Arora said:

Homework Statement


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The Attempt at a Solution


I am not sure how to start with this problem. Do I need to use the barometric formula?

Barometric formula:
[tex]p=p_0exp\left(\frac{-Mgh}{RT_0}\right)[/tex]

Why not?

ehild
 
ehild said:
Why not?

ehild

I tried that but it gives me the wrong answer.
Here's my attempt:

Let h=10m, then 2h=20m.
##p_{20}=p_0 \exp\left({-\frac{Mg(2h)}{RT}}\right)##
##p_{10}=p_0 \exp\left({-\frac{Mgh}{RT}}\right)##

Let ##\exp\left({-\frac{Mgh}{RT}}\right)=x##.
[tex]\frac{p_0-p_{20}}{p_0-p_{10}}-2=\frac{1-x^2}{1-x}-2[/tex]
[tex]=(1+x)-2=x-1[/tex]

When I substitute the values of all the variable in exponential term, I get ##x-1=-5.6 \times 10^{-4}## but this is wrong. :(

I used ##M=14 \times 10^{-3} kg/mol##, ##R=8.314 J/(mol \cdot K)## and ##T=293 K##.
 
What is the molar mass of nitrogen gas?

ehild
 
ehild said:
What is the molar mass of nitrogen gas?

ehild

Woops, its 28, thanks! :)

This time I get: ##-1.1 \times 10^{-3}##, is this right?
 
Correct.

ehild
 
ehild said:
Correct.

ehild

But when I submit this, it is marked incorrect. :(
 
Try more digits.
 
ehild said:
Try more digits.

Thanks a bunch, yes, it was a problem with significant digits. :)
 

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