Godwin Kessy
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Can anyone please help me on the term pressure energy what does it really mean and If possible the calculations involved with it!
The discussion centers on the concept of pressure energy in fluid mechanics, specifically its relationship to volume and pressure as defined in Bernoulli's theorem. Participants clarify that pressure energy is calculated as pressure times volume (PV), and changes in this product indicate changes in energy. The conversation also highlights the distinction between pressure energy and gravitational potential energy (mgh), emphasizing that pressure energy is not universally equivalent to mgh, particularly in varying gravitational contexts. The equations dU = TdS - PdV and dH = TdS + VdP are referenced to explain changes in internal energy and enthalpy, respectively.
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DaleSpam said:Pressure times volume is energy. So if that product changes then the energy has changed.
thrillhouse86 said:Strictly speaking isn't change in volume times a constant pressure energy ?
so if you had a situation where your volume stayed constant but your volume changed you would have a change in enthalpy ? i.e
dU = TdS - PdV
dH = TdS + VdP
It is any volume that you are interested in and the pressure within that volume. For instance, if you are interested in the work done by a piston as it expands then you would take the pressure inside the piston times the volume of the piston at the beginning of the power stroke and at the end of the power stroke. The difference is the work done by the piston during the expansion.Godwin Kessy said:But what is really that volume and the pressure.
May you please elaborated it
You should be shocked, it is not true in general. For instance, in outer space g=0, so mgh = 0, but pressure times volume is still energy and pistons and compressors don't run without energy input! Also, consider on earth, you can heat a gas inside a closed container, this will increase P and therefore increase PV without changing mgh.Godwin Kessy said:I was shocked when it was written that;
Pressure energy=mgh
DaleSpam said:You should be shocked, it is not true in general.
you didn't get what Dale meant by "general". There are many different types of pressure energy including several others in bernoulli's equation. Pressure due to gravity is only one type.Godwin Kessy said:Seriously it is true am telling you! May be you should look it over and help me out!
Its under the derivation of Bernouli's theorem!
Not quite, it's an inverse relationship. Bernoulli's equation multiplied by volume results in:Godwin Kessy said:Bernoulli ... Pressure energy=mgh