Pressure losses in electric air heater

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the pressure losses in an electric air heater, specifically addressing the nature of these losses (static, dynamic, or both) and their impact on mass flow rate and outlet velocity. Participants explore the application of Bernoulli's equation to calculate outlet velocity and consider the effects of temperature on air density.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant states that the 3kPa pressure loss is static pressure.
  • Another participant questions how the 3kPa loss affects the mass flow rate, suggesting it may not remain constant across the heater.
  • A participant provides calculations using Bernoulli's equation to estimate outlet velocity, expressing concern that the resulting value of 71m/s seems excessively high and asks for potential errors in their logic.
  • One participant notes that while the volumetric flow rate changes due to air expansion when heated, the mass flow rate remains constant since the mass cannot escape the system.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of the pressure loss and its implications for mass flow rate and outlet velocity. There is no consensus on the calculations or the assumptions made regarding the pressure loss and its effects.

Contextual Notes

Assumptions include the constancy of air density and the simplification of ignoring heating effects when calculating outlet velocity. The discussion also highlights the potential for error in the calculations presented.

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Individuals interested in fluid dynamics, HVAC systems, or those working with air heating systems may find this discussion relevant.

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I have an electric air heater with a pressure loss of 3kPa (according to manufacturer at the flow rate and temperature I will be using). Air is supplied to the heater using a centrifugal fan with a static pressure of 8.7kPa (gauge) and a flow rate of 88m3/hr, giving a dynamic pressure of around 95Pa.

My question is; will this loss of 3kPa be static, dynamic or a bit of both? I would like to calculate the outlet velocity after passing through the heater (using bernoulli equation) and I having difficulty without knowing what pressure to deduct the 3kPa from.
 
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It's the static pressure.
 
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How would this effect the mass flow rate leaving the heater? I was under the impression the 3kPa loss would result in some loss in mass flow (i.e. cannot assume mass flow rate across heater is constant). I have a means of measuring the heater inlet velocity but not outlet (especially when it is at operating temperature) so would like get at at least a general idea of the outlet velocity.

Ignoring the heating effects, i.e. running flow through heater when off:
Pstatic in =108.7kPa, Pstatic out=105.7kPa therefore Pstatic in-Pstatic out=3kPa
rho in = rho out =1.225kg/m3 (assumption made for simplicity)
velocity in = 12m/s

Using Bernoulli eqn.
velocity out=SQRT(velocity in^2+2(Pstatic in-Pstatic out)/rho)

After subbing in values I get, velocity out=71m/s...This seems really high, can you see any error in this logic?

This value will also only increase when I add the effect of the temperature rise on the air density.

Thanks
 
The volumetric flow rate across a heater changes because the air expands when heated. The mass flow rate stays the same because there is nowhere else for the mass to go.
 

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