Pressure vessel thickness U.S. measurement

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the measurement of pressure vessel thickness to estimate corrosion degradation, specifically focusing on determining the appropriate number of test points on the vessel's surface based on its size and the method for evaluating thickness using test point measurements.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions how to determine the number of test points on a pressure vessel's shell and caps, suggesting they currently use 3-4 points on the shell and 2 on each cap for a 250-liter tank.
  • Another participant provides references for corrosion monitoring and outlines a general inspection process, including visual inspections and ultrasonic measurements of minimum wall thickness.
  • It is noted that inspection frequency may depend on various factors such as pressure, material, and operational cycles, with suggestions ranging from frequent checks to every few years.
  • A participant emphasizes the importance of selecting test locations based on the specific vessel's contents and environmental conditions, indicating that the number of tests can vary widely.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the optimal number of test points and methods for measuring thickness, with no consensus reached on specific recommendations or standards.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various factors influencing corrosion and inspection strategies, such as the type of contents in the vessel and environmental conditions, but do not resolve the implications of these factors on testing protocols.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals involved in pressure vessel maintenance, corrosion monitoring, and engineering evaluations may find this discussion relevant.

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Hi everyone,
In purpose to estimate the corrosion degredation in pressure vessels it is recommended to measure the pressure vessel thickness using an U.S. device.

My question is how to determine the number of test points on the shell/caps surface as a function of the pressure vessel size? (50-5000 liters). Actually, I'm using 3-4 test points on the shell surface & 2 test points on each cap surface of a 250 liter tank, but I don't know if it is many/few... are there any recommendations?

Second question is how to determine the thickness, using the minimum/mean test point thickness? Actually I use the min T.P.
Thank you
Guideon
 
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Rather out of my field, but here are a couple places to start
https://www.flyability.com/corrosion-monitoring

above found with:
https://www.google.com/search?&q=measure+corrosion+degredation+in+pressure+vessels

https://www.google.com/search?&q=inspection+corrosion+in+pressure+vessels

Doing a quick read of the first reference, inspection seems to consist of:
1) visual to locate corrosion and its extent
2) ultrasonic or X-ray measurement of minimum remaining wall thickness
3) engineering evaluation of remaining wall thickness versus operating conditions

For large vessels, a drone airplane with a camera is flown around inside the vessel to locate and measure the extent of any corrosion.

Note the reference to minimum thickness, that is where failure is likely.

Pay particular attention at welds and surrounding Heat Affected Zones (HAZ).
Inspection frequency depends on pressure, material being contained, pressure cycles, etc. Inspection periods vary from "as often as possible", 1-2 years, 4-5 years.

One project I know of for a steam boiler used "Test Coupons" monitoring. I had the impression these were small pieces of material (metal) that were located in the boiler or adjacent plumbing and were periodically sent to a lab for testing, and replaced with new ones; testing occurred 1 or 4 times a year.

Lets see if by mentioning his name, we can get @jrmichler to respond here, he has a much better background in this.

Cheers,
Tom
 
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I hesitated to respond in the hope that somebody else could make a better response. The above post by @Tom.G is better than I would have done.

The best places to test vary between pressure vessels. Compressed air tanks are subject to corrosion on the inside near the bottom if condensed water is not continuously and completely removed. I have seen deep pitting in a propane tank on the outside bottom where dew drained down the outside and dripped off.

You need to use your knowledge of the pressure vessel, its contents, and the environment to test the areas most subject to corrosion. That might be 1or 2 tests per vessel, or it might be 100 or 200 tests.
 
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Thank you for the information.
 
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