Principles of Mathematical Analysis by Rudin

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The discussion centers on the appropriate placement of Rudin's book within mathematical education, particularly regarding its use before a calculus course. It is generally agreed that while Rudin can technically be approached before studying calculus, it is likely to be too challenging and lacking in motivation for those without a strong foundation in calculus and proof techniques. The concept of "mathematical maturity" is highlighted as essential for understanding Rudin, defined as comfort with abstract concepts, which typically develops through prior exposure to calculus. Participants suggest that Rudin is better suited for readers who have already encountered real analysis, and recommend introductory texts like "Elementary Analysis" by Ross for those new to the subject, noting that without calculus, the significance of certain topics may not be fully appreciated.
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I am curious as to where this book falls in the hierarchy of mathematical education.

Could it be used effectively before a calculus course? Is calculus necessary before analysis?
 
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Well, you could use it before a calculus course. But you'll find it much too difficult and without motivation.

To tackle Rudin, one needs to know calculus and one needs to be very familiar with proofs. Furthermore, some mathematical maturity is needed.

And even then, Rudin is still hard.
 
micromass said:
To tackle Rudin, one needs to know calculus and one needs to be very familiar with proofs. Furthermore, some mathematical maturity is needed.

And even then, Rudin is still hard.


I know its subjective, but what is the definition of "mathematical maturity"?
 
Menomena said:
I know its subjective, but what is the definition of "mathematical maturity"?

Comfort with abstract mathematical concepts. In general, if you haven't taken calculus yet, then you don't have any (because you've never even encountered abstraction in mathematics). Rudin is something you read after you've already been introduced to real analysis; you are not ready. There are a few good introductory analysis texts (e.g. Elementary Analysis by Ross, which is quite good), but some of the motivation may be lacking if you haven't studied calculus (which isn't to say that you couldn't do it, just that you may not understand the importance of the some of the topics quite yet).
 
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