Probability of Winning a Dice Game: Homework Statement and Solutions

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The discussion focuses on calculating the probabilities of winning in a dice game between Sarah and Thomas. For part a, the initial assumption of equal winning chances is challenged, as the presence of ties complicates the outcome. In part b, if Sarah rolls a 3, the probability she wins is correctly identified as 1/3, while in part c, the probability that Thomas wins under the same condition is noted as 1/2. Parts d and e require more nuanced reasoning, as the probabilities of rolling a 3 given that Sarah wins are not straightforward and depend on the specific outcomes of both players' rolls. Overall, the conversation emphasizes the need for careful analysis of the game's mechanics and the application of probability theory.
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Homework Statement


Sarah and Thomas each roll a die. Whoever gets the higher number wins; if they both roll they same number, neither wins.

a. What is the probability that Thomas wins?

b. If Sarah, rolls a 3 what is the probability that she wins?

c. If Sarah rolls a 3 what is the probability that Thomas wins?

d. If Sarah wins what is the probability that Thomas rolled a 3?

e. If Sarah wins what is the probability that Sarah rolled a three?


Homework Equations



P(A|B) = P(A\capB)/P(B)

Bayes' Rule


The Attempt at a Solution



For a, is it as simple as they both at the beginning of the game have an equally likely chance of winning so 1/2?

b) If she rolls a 3 then in order for her to win Thomas must roll a 1 or 2 so the probability that she wins is 1/3

c) If she rolls a three then in order for Thomas to win he must roll a 4,5 or 6 so the probability that he wins is 1/2.

d) If Sarah wins she must have rolled a 2,3,4,5, or 6. For Thomas to lose he must have rolled a 1,2,3,4 or 5. So the probability that he rolls a 3 is 1/5.

e) If Sarah wins she must have rolled a 2,3,4,5, or 6. So the probability that she rolls a three is also 1/5.

Is this correct reasoning? Also how do I actually use the relevant equations in this problem?
 
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KEØM said:

Homework Statement


Sarah and Thomas each roll a die. Whoever gets the higher number wins; if they both roll they same number, neither wins.

a. What is the probability that Thomas wins?

b. If Sarah, rolls a 3 what is the probability that she wins?

c. If Sarah rolls a 3 what is the probability that Thomas wins?

d. If Sarah wins what is the probability that Thomas rolled a 3?

e. If Sarah wins what is the probability that Sarah rolled a three?


Homework Equations



P(A|B) = P(A\capB)/P(B)

Bayes' Rule


The Attempt at a Solution



For a, is it as simple as they both at the beginning of the game have an equally likely chance of winning so 1/2?
i don't think so, as there is also the potential no one wins...
KEØM said:
b) If she rolls a 3 then in order for her to win Thomas must roll a 1 or 2 so the probability that she wins is 1/3

c) If she rolls a three then in order for Thomas to win he must roll a 4,5 or 6 so the probability that he wins is 1/2.
these sound right to me
KEØM said:
d) If Sarah wins she must have rolled a 2,3,4,5, or 6. For Thomas to lose he must have rolled a 1,2,3,4 or 5. So the probability that he rolls a 3 is 1/5.

e) If Sarah wins she must have rolled a 2,3,4,5, or 6. So the probability that she rolls a three is also 1/5.
not sure i follow you reasoning on the last two

the question revolves around the random variable, X which can take values {1,2,..,6}
with P(X=n) = 1/6 for n in {1,2,..,6}

for example a) is given the two independent random variables X1 & X2 with distributions as given above, what is P(X1 > X2)...

however, as you were implying, due to symmetry, you know P(X2 > X1) = P(X1 > X2)
 
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For a), I think not. If you write out all the possibilities for example, you will see that in less than half of them Thomas actually wins.

Similarly you over-simplified d) and e). Sarah winning does not mean that she rolled 2, 3, 4, 5 or 6 while Thomas got 1, 2, 3, 4 or 5. For example: if Sarah throws 3 and Thomas 4, then Thomas wins.
 
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