Probability theory question (mini max functions)

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The discussion revolves around a problem in probability theory, specifically focusing on the variance of a linear combination of two independent random variables, X and Y, with given expected values and variances. The goal is to find the values of a that minimize and maximize the variance of Z, defined as Z = aX + (1-a)Y.

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  • Participants discuss the independence of the random variables and the implications for variance calculations. There are attempts to derive expressions for variance and to differentiate functions to find extrema. Questions arise about the relevance of mean values and how to apply calculus to the problem.

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Participants are actively exploring the mathematical relationships involved and have provided guidance on variance properties and differentiation. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being considered, particularly regarding the role of means and the endpoints for the variable a.

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There is a noted lack of clarity regarding the application of certain variance formulas and the differentiation process. Participants express challenges in keeping up with course materials while balancing other commitments.

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Homework Statement


EX=EY=5, VarX=1, VarY=sigma^2 >1
Z=aX+(1-a)Y, 0<=a<=1
find a that minimizes VarZ, and another a that maximize VarZ


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The Attempt at a Solution


Not even sure where to begin
*EX=5, VarX=1 thus EX^2 = 26
marginal px(x) =26/x^2 = 5/x but this finds me x not px(x)
*then I tried rewriting the equation a=(Z-Y)/(X-Y), but then I don't know how to utilise the mean and variance values.

Please help.
 
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kwy said:

Homework Statement


EX=EY=5, VarX=1, VarY=sigma^2 >1
Z=aX+(1-a)Y, 0<=a<=1

Did you omit the fact that X and Y are independent random variables?

find a that minimizes VarZ, and another a that maximize VarZ


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Let P and Q be independent random variables let k be a constant then
Let W = kP

Then
[tex]Var(W) = ?[/tex]
[tex]Var(W + Q) = ?[/tex]

From calculus:
To minimize [itex]F(a)[/itex] on the interval [itex]0 \leq a \leq 1[/itex] set [itex]F'(a) = 0[/itex] and solve for [itex]a[/itex]. Compare the value of this [itex]F(a)[/itex] to the value of [itex]F(0)[/itex] and [itex]F(1)[/itex] to check for "endpoint extrema".
 
Yes, they are independent random variables. Can you please provide a bit more guidence? I just know Var(W) = kEX^2 -(kEX)^2? Am I totally off track?
 
Don't your course materials prove theorems like

[itex]var(kX) = k^2 Var(X)[/itex] ?
 
Thanks for your patience, the course went so fast, I am still trying to revise all the notes between full time work.
so Var(W)= k^2Var(P)
does Var(W+Q)= VarW + VarQ + 2xCov(W,Q)??
 
kwy said:
Thanks for your patience, the course went so fast, I am still trying to revise all the notes between full time work.
so Var(W)= k^2Var(P)
does Var(W+Q)= VarW + VarQ + 2xCov(W,Q)??
Yes, to the last question. In fact, Var(a*X + b*Y) = a^2 * Var(X) + b^2*Var(Y) + 2*a*b*Cov(X,Y) for constants a and b.

RGV
 
Hi Ray, since the RVs X and Y are independent, I don't have to worry about the Cov(XY) right? Hence, the equation is now
VarZ = a^2VarX + (1-a)^2VarY (VarX = 1, VarY = sigma^2)
= a^2 + (1-a)^2*sigma^2 and where do the mean values come in?
How can I differentiate this?
Thanks in advance.
 
kwy said:
Hi Ray, since the RVs X and Y are independent, I don't have to worry about the Cov(XY) right? Hence, the equation is now
VarZ = a^2VarX + (1-a)^2VarY (VarX = 1, VarY = sigma^2)
= a^2 + (1-a)^2*sigma^2 and where do the mean values come in?
How can I differentiate this?
Thanks in advance.

Don't let the fact that the variable is 'a' instead of 'x' confuse you. You could differentiate
[tex]F(x) = x^2 + (1-x)^2 s^2[/tex] with respect to [itex]x[/itex], couldn't you?

As to where the mean values come in, that's a good question! Is there a part 2 to this question?
 
kwy said:
Hi Ray, since the RVs X and Y are independent, I don't have to worry about the Cov(XY) right? Hence, the equation is now
VarZ = a^2VarX + (1-a)^2VarY (VarX = 1, VarY = sigma^2)
= a^2 + (1-a)^2*sigma^2 and where do the mean values come in?
How can I differentiate this?
Thanks in advance.

The means do not "come in"; that is the whole point of the formula!

As to the second question: you have a function of a. You should be able to differentiate it.

RGV
 
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Thanks so much Ray and Stephen. It makes sense now.
 
  • #11
Hi Guys, I think the means may be of use somewhere. There is no 2nd part to the question, the aim is to determine values of a that will i) minimise VarZ and ii) maximise VarZ. Following differentiation, a = sigma^2/(1+sigma^2). From this value and 2 random variables, how can I check the "endpoint extema"? Do I simply test with F(0,0) and F(1,1). Many thanks.
 
  • #12
The endpoint extrema are the values of Var(Z) = F(a) when a = 0 and when a = 1. (There's only one varaible 'a' here, so you don't need a notation suggesting that F has two variables.) There are 3 candidates for 'a': a = 0 , a = 1 or a = sigma^2 / (1 + sigma^2), each produces a different value for Var(Z).
 
  • #13
Got it. Thanks heaps.
 
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kwy said:
Hi Guys, I think the means may be of use somewhere. There is no 2nd part to the question, the aim is to determine values of a that will i) minimise VarZ and ii) maximise VarZ. Following differentiation, a = sigma^2/(1+sigma^2). From this value and 2 random variables, how can I check the "endpoint extema"? Do I simply test with F(0,0) and F(1,1). Many thanks.
Your function f(a) is a^2 + v*(1-a)^2, where v = sigma^2. The graph y = f(a) is an upward-opening parabola on the whole real a-line, so on 0 <= a <= 1, only three possibilities can occur: (i) f(a) is decreasing (i.e., non-increasing) as a function of a on the interval [0,1]; (ii) f(a) is increasing on [0,1]; or (iii) f(a) is decreasing on the left part of [0,1] and increasing on the right part. (Draw sketches to pin down your understanding.) Now you need to determine whether you are in case (i), (ii) or (iii), and then determine how to find the max and min of f(a) on the a-interval [0,1].

RGV
 
  • #15
Many thanks.
 

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