Probability with pairs of things

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The problem involves drawing two disks from a hat, each labeled with a number from 1 to 5, and determining the possible outcomes and associated probabilities based on the sums of the drawn numbers.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the listing of possible outcomes as unordered pairs and the calculation of probabilities for specific sums. There are attempts to clarify the correct method for calculating probabilities, particularly regarding whether to add or multiply probabilities based on the context of the problem.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants questioning the correctness of probability calculations and exploring the distinction between adding and multiplying probabilities in this context. Some guidance has been provided regarding the correct approach to finding the probability of drawing specific pairs.

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Participants are navigating the rules of probability in relation to drawing without replacement and the implications of the problem's setup on their calculations.

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Homework Statement



The five numbers 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5 are written respectively on five disks of the same size and placed in a hat. Two disks are drawn without replacement from the hat, and the numbers written on them is observed.

(a) List the 10 possible outcomes for this experiment as unordered pairs of numbers.


(b) If each of the 10 outcomes has probability 1/10, assign a value to the probability that the sum of the two numbers drawn is (i) 3, (ii) between 6 and 8 inclusive

The Attempt at a Solution



(a)
1 2
1 3
1 4
1 5
2 3
2 4
2 5
3 4
3 5
4 5

(b)

(i)

That would be the pair: 1 2

The probability of drawing a 1 and a 2 is: 1/10


(ii)

That would be the pairs:

1 5
2 4
2 5
3 4
3 5
4 5

This probability would be: (1/10)^6

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Check the your second answer in b.

(ii)

That would be the pairs:

1 5
2 4
2 5
3 4
3 5
4 5

This probability would be: (1/10)^6
 
neutrino said:
Check the your second answer in b.

How would I go about finding the probability for that one
 
It is only to correct to multiply probabilities if you're trying to find the probability of ALL of these things happen. In other words, if you needed to draw first the pair 1 5, then 2 4, then 2 5, etc.

However, the condition is that ONE of these combinations is drawn in ONE trial, so you add the probabilities.
 
(1/10)6 is the probability that you drew those specific pairs in 6 consectutive drawings (with replacement).

The probability of drawing one of those is the number of such outcomes, 5, divided by the total number of outcomes, 10. Of course, that is exactly the same as adding the probability of each, as wbclark said.
 
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mutzy188 said:
How would I go about finding the probability for that one

wbclark said:
It is only to correct to multiply probabilities if you're trying to find the probability of ALL of these things happen. In other words, if you needed to draw first the pair 1 5, then 2 4, then 2 5, etc.

However, the condition is that ONE of these combinations is drawn in ONE trial, so you add the probabilities.

To add to that, 4 and 5 make 9.
 
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