Problem about rate of change (multivariable calculus)

Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The problem involves calculating the rate of change of a multivariable function T = f(x, y, z) with respect to time, given specific rates of change for the variables x, y, and z. The context is within multivariable calculus, focusing on the application of the chain rule.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to derive an explicit formula for T based on the given partial derivatives, leading to a discussion about the necessity of finding T itself. Some participants question the need for an explicit expression, suggesting that the chain rule can be applied directly with the provided values.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some clarifying the distinction between total and partial derivatives. There is recognition of a potential misunderstanding regarding notation, and helpful guidance has been provided regarding the correct use of partial derivatives.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted confusion regarding the notation used for derivatives, specifically the distinction between dT/dx and ∂T/∂x, which has implications for the understanding of the problem. The original poster references their teacher's notation, indicating a possible source of misunderstanding.

supermiedos
Messages
62
Reaction score
0

Homework Statement


Let T = f(x, y, z), where dx/dt = 4, dy/dt = 4 and dz/dt = -3
Calculate dT/dt if dT/dx = 4, dT/dy = 7 and dT/dz = 9


Homework Equations


dT/dt = ∂T/∂x (dx/dt) + ∂T/∂y (dy/dt) + ∂T/∂z (dz/dt)


The Attempt at a Solution


I tried to get an explicit formula for T. I thought that, if dT/dx = 4, then T = 4x + c. Similarly, T = 7y + c and T = 9z + c. If i add the above expressions, I get:

3T = 4x + 7y + 9z + C, so, T would be T = 4x/3 + 7y/3 + 3z + C, and I could use the chain rule and just substitute dx/dt and so on...

Is my reasoning fine?
 
Physics news on Phys.org
Why do you need to do anything about T?

You have the equation for dT/dt, and you know the values of everything on its right-hand side.
 
First, you can't get an explicit expression for T, there are infinitely many possibililties. But you don't need that, just the "chain rule"":
\frac{dT}{dt}= \frac{\partial T}{\partial x}\frac{dx}{dt}+ \frac{\partial T}{\partial y}\frac{dy}{dt}+ \frac{\partial T}{\partial z}\frac{dz}{dt}
 
But I need ∂T/∂x and I have dT/dx = 4 (same for the others). Don't tell me ∂T/∂x = dT/dx, because I'm going to cry
 
Using d when you have a function with more than one variable is not correct notation. ∂T/∂x is the correct notation.
 
Omg you are right. My teacher wrote it like dT/dx, and I never realized he wrote it wrong. Thank you for your help guys
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
1K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
1K
Replies
1
Views
2K
Replies
12
Views
2K
Replies
2
Views
2K
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
1K
Replies
4
Views
2K