Problem related to a 2x2 matrix

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving a real 2x2 matrix A, specifically addressing the condition A^m=0 and the requirement to prove that A^2=0. The context is set within linear algebra, focusing on matrix properties and implications of nilpotent matrices.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the implications of the characteristic polynomial and eigenvalues related to the matrix A. There are attempts to find more elementary proofs and discussions about the rank of the matrix and its structure. Some participants question the necessity of A having a column of zeros.

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The conversation includes various lines of reasoning, with some participants suggesting different approaches and clarifying concepts. There is an exchange of ideas about the implications of matrix rank and transformations, but no explicit consensus has been reached on a single method or proof.

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Participants note that the exercise appears early in their study of matrices, where eigenvalues have not yet been introduced. There is a mention of constraints regarding the rank of the matrix and the implications of A^m=0.

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Homework Statement


Let A be any real 2x2 matrix. If A^m=0, prove that A^2=0.


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It might be quite easy, but I cannot find any way to prove it...all my attempts failed to get any closer to the solution...(I'm not sure why it is the A^2 which should equals to 0, not A^1,or A^3...)

Any hint will be greatly appreciated!
 
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Try thinking about what the characteristic polynomial of A might look like. Does A^m=0 tell you anything about possible eigenvalues of A?
 
this exercise appeared right after the very early chapter where matrix is introduced and eigenvalues are not mentioned...I will review that eigenvalue part though and thanks for the idea .If possible, could you find me an more elementary way to prove it?:) I thought it should have one...
I'm reading <Introduction to Algebra - part I: Fundamentals of Algebra, by A. I. Kostrikin> for a reviewing study.
 
boombaby said:
this exercise appeared right after the very early chapter where matrix is introduced and eigenvalues are not mentioned...I will review that eigenvalue part though and thanks for the idea .If possible, could you find me an more elementary way to prove it?:) I thought it should have one...
I'm reading <Introduction to Algebra - part I: Fundamentals of Algebra, by A. I. Kostrikin> for a reviewing study.

Well, if you let V be the space of two dimensional vectors, the A^n(V)=0=A(A^(n-1)(V)). Since A^(n-1)(V) is not equal to zero then there must be a vector v such that A(v)=0. If you write the matrix of A in a basis containing v, then the matrix of A must have a column of zeros. So it must look like [[0,a],[0,b]]. Start writing down powers of A. Do you see that if A^2 isn't zero then no power of A is zero?
 
I've done it: Let A=(a b; ka kb), assuming rank A=1 (if rank A=0, things are getting trivial, and rand A=2 will never satisfy A^n=0). this yields that A^2=(a+kb)A, which gives A^m=(a+kb)^(m-1) A. Hence if A~=0, a+kb=0, and A^2 therefore equals to 0.
what I also find is that A does not necessarily have a column of zeros, a k satisfying a+kb=0 is the only necessity imo...well, this problem seems really easy, anyway I got a lot more helpful information:) which I'm not quite good at for now, but I will keep an eye on it when I reach those parts. A big thank u that you are always helping me and others :)
 
That works fine. My point was that if B is a matrix representing the same linear transformation as A in a different basis, then A^n=0 etc if and only if B^n=0 etc. So you can do row operations (change of basis) on A. Take your A and multiply the first row by -k and add it to the second. Now you have B=(a b; 0 0). Actually, I like your way better. Less explaining to do.
 

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