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The discussion revolves around finding a 2x2 matrix that transforms the standard basis vectors e1 and e2 in a specific manner: e1 is sent to e2 and e2 is sent to e1. Participants are exploring the implications of this transformation and the properties of matrices in linear algebra.

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  • Participants are attempting to understand how a single matrix can satisfy two conditions involving the transformation of basis vectors. Questions arise about the uniqueness of matrix representation based on its action on basis vectors.

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Some participants have clarified the requirements of the problem, while others are exploring the implications of defining a matrix based on its action on a complete basis. There is an ongoing examination of the relationships between the vectors and the matrix representation.

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Participants are considering the general form of a 2x2 matrix and how its elements relate to the transformations specified in the problem. There is an acknowledgment of the need for a complete understanding of the matrix's action on the basis vectors to determine its unique representation.

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[/B]Find the matrix that performs the operation

2x2 Matrix which sends e1→e2 and e2→e1

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I know e1 = < 1 , 0>
and e2 = <0 , 1>

Basically I'm not quite sure what the question is asking. This is the one of the problems I am currently stuck on. He is teaching out of the book-currently

Can someone please explain what this means?
 
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The problem asks you to find a matrix ##A## such that ##A e_1 = e_2## and ##Ae_2 = e_1##.
 
Orodruin said:
The problem asks you to find a matrix ##A## such that ##A e_1 = e_2## and ##Ae_2 = e_1##.

thanks. So If i understand from your clarification,

This 2x2 matrix that I'm looking for, when I multiply it by e1 it will give me e2, and vice-versa, this unknown matrix multipled by e2 will give me the result e1.
 
Yes.
 
Orodruin said:
Yes.
Thanks again.

When i find the 2 these two matrixes that perform these two operations. When I multiply them together the result should be the 2x2 matrix that this question is asking for?
 
No. You need to find a single matrix which satisfies both relations.
 
Orodruin said:
No. You need to find a single matrix which satisfies both relations.

How is that even possible?
1] I found a 2x2 matrix we'll call A that when you multiply it by e1 = e2
2] I also found a 2x2 matrix B that when you multiply it by e2 =e1

But how is it possible to satisfy both conditions at the same time with the same 2x2 matrix? Any hints?
 
Any matrix is defined by its action on a complete basis. If you just know how it acts on a single vector you cannot determine it uniquely. I suggest assuming the most general form
$$\begin{pmatrix}a&b\\ c&d\end{pmatrix}$$
and examine what you can say about ##a,b,c## and ##d## from your requirements.
 
Orodruin said:
Any matrix is defined by its action on a complete basis. If you just know how it acts on a single vector you cannot determine it uniquely. I suggest assuming the most general form
$$\begin{pmatrix}a&b\\ c&d\end{pmatrix}$$
and examine what you can say about ##a,b,c## and ##d## from your requirements.

Nevermind I just figured it out. thanks for your help with adding to my knowledge/intuition with that statement about defining a matrix actions.
!(took me long enough)

The 2x2 matrix i came up with was the following.
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Like Orodruin was saying, a matrix associated to a linear map T is uniquely defined by the effects of T on the given choice of basis. Then , for a map (Assummiing this, given your posts) from ##\mathbb R^2 ## to itself , both with the same basis, the associated matrix is ## [(Te_1)^T , (Te_2)^T] ##. where the T means transpose. Note that the copies of ##\mathbb R^2 ## may have different bases, then the solution is different. There are many variants, of course, of maps between vector spaces ( or even --free, of course-- rings/modules) of different dimensions, with different bases, but the idea of your case generalizes nicely here.
 
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