Problem with angles and differentiation

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The problem involves maximizing the viewing angle from a point on the ground to a big screen positioned above. The parameters include the height of the screen and the distance from the observer to the screen, requiring differentiation to find the optimal horizontal distance for the best view.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss finding an equation for the angle as a function of distance and the subsequent differentiation process. There are attempts to express the cosine of the angle in terms of the distance, with some questioning the methods used to derive these expressions.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging in exploring different methods to express the angle and its relationship to the distance. Some have suggested minimizing the cosine of the angle, while others are clarifying the differentiation process. There is a mix of approaches being discussed, with no explicit consensus on a single method.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the correct expressions and methods for differentiation, as well as the complexity of the resulting equations. Participants are also navigating the challenge of avoiding complications in their calculations.

TW Cantor
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Homework Statement



A "big screen" AB of height L is placed at a height h above a point C on the ground as shown (in the attachment). A person wishes to sit on the ground at a point D in order to watch a video on the big screen. She wishes to sit at a horizontal distance x away from C which gives her the best view. This means that she wishes to sit at a value of x which maximises the viewing angle . If L = 16.2m and h = 7.7m, find this value of x.




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i know i have to get an equation which i can then differentiate but I am not sure how to get this equation and what i would then differentiate with respect to.
 

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Hi TW Cantor! :wink:

Find the angle ADB as a function of x, and then differentiate …

what do you get? :smile:
 
umm i got cos(θ)=((x^2)+184.03)/((sqrt((x^2)+571.21)*(sqrt((x^2)+59.29))

is that the sort of thing i should get getting for cos in terms of x?
 
How did you get that? :confused:
 
haha obviously not the right way then. i tried to find the lengths of AD and BD in terms of x, and then used the cosine rule to get theta in terms of x?
 
Oh I see it now! …

yes that looks ok …

now minimise cosθ (the whole thing). :wink:
 
sorry does that mean inverse cos of the whole thing?
 
no! stop making it complicated! :biggrin:

you want the largest θ …

that'll be the smallest cosθ …

put y = cosθ (if that makes you happier) …

now y is a function of x, so use dy/dx to find a minimum for y (= cosθ) :wink:
 
ok, so i say that y=((x^2)+184.03)/((sqrt((x^2)+571.21)*(sqrt((x^2)+59.29))
i then say dy/dx=0 and use that to calculate a value for x?
 
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this method worked :-) i got x=13.57, thanks a lot for your help :-) :-)
 
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TW Cantor said:
… i then say dy/dx=0 and use that to calculate a value for x?

(have a square-root: √ and try using the X2 tag just above the Reply box :wink:)

Yes.

Except, now that I look at it again, it would be easier to use y2 instead of y (to avoid those nasty square-roots ). :wink:
 
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yeah it did come out as quite a nasty differential :-( but i got the right answer so its fine :-)
 

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