Problem with differentiation and area of components

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The discussion centers on maximizing the volume of a solid engineering component composed of a cylinder and a cone, given a total surface area constraint of 481. Participants emphasize the importance of correctly formulating the surface area equations, specifically excluding certain areas where the cone and cylinder connect. One user successfully derives an equation for the length L in terms of radius r, which is crucial for further calculations. The next steps involve combining the volume equations for both shapes, differentiating the total volume with respect to r, and setting the derivative to zero to find the maximum volume. The conversation concludes with a user confirming the completion of the problem after addressing the necessary corrections.
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Homework Statement



The diagram attached shows a solid engineering component which consists of a solid cylinder of length L and radius r, together with a right circular cone with semi-vertical angle = 11 degrees.
The total surface area of the component is 481.
The component is to be manufactured so as to have maximum volume.

Calculate the values of L and R for maximum volume.

Homework Equations



Surface area of cylinder = 2*pi*radius*length + 2*pi*radius2
Surface area of cone = pi*radius*length of slope + pi*radius2
Volume of cylinder = pi*radius2*length
Volume of cone = (pi*radius2*heigth)/3

The Attempt at a Solution



i guess i have to get an equation for the total volume in terms of r but i can't seem to think of a way to find the radius in terms of L. i would then differentiate this equation and equal it to 0 to find the maximum volume
 

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TW Cantor said:

Homework Statement



The diagram attached shows a solid engineering component which consists of a solid cylinder of length L and radius r, together with a right circular cone with semi-vertical angle = 11 degrees.
The total surface area of the component is 481.
The component is to be manufactured so as to have maximum volume.

Calculate the values of L and R for maximum volume.

Homework Equations



Surface area of cylinder = 2*pi*radius*length + 2*pi*radius2

When the parts are joined, the base of the cone and the end of the cylinder where it is attached are inside the solid. They wouldn't be included in the surface area. So don't count both ends of the cone.

Surface area of cone = pi*radius*length of slope + pi*radius2

And don't count the base of the cone in the surface area.

Volume of cylinder = pi*radius2*length
Volume of cone = (pi*radius2*heigth)/3

The Attempt at a Solution



i guess i have to get an equation for the total volume in terms of r but i can't seem to think of a way to find the radius in terms of L. i would then differentiate this equation and equal it to 0 to find the maximum volume

First you need to correct your equations and write them in terms of r and L. Then when you calculate the total surface area and set it equal to 481, you should be able to solve it for L in terms of r. And once you have r you can get L.
 
hi LCKurtz :-)

so I've worked out that L in terms of r is equal to:

L=(π*r2+((π*r2)/sin(11))-481)/(2*π*r)

i guess i then have to get combine the two volume equations for a cone and a cylinder to get total volume in terms of r. i then differentiate the total volume and equal it to 0 to find r at maximum volume?
 
TW Cantor said:
hi LCKurtz :-)

so I've worked out that L in terms of r is equal to:

L=(π*r2+((π*r2)/sin(11))-481)/(2*π*r)

i guess i then have to get combine the two volume equations for a cone and a cylinder to get total volume in terms of r. i then differentiate the total volume and equal it to 0 to find r at maximum volume?

I think you need (481 - expression) instead of (expression - 481) in the numerator, so check your sign. Other than that, yes you have the right plan of what to do next.
 
yes i have now completed this problem :-)
thanks a lot for your hints ;-)
 
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