Projection into the left null space

In summary, the conversation discusses finding the matrix M that projects a vector b into the left nullspace of A, using the given equations and attempting various solutions. The final solution involves using the error term e to find M, by subtracting the components of Col A perp from Col A. However, this solution may not work if A is a singular matrix.
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Homework Statement



I am trying to find the matrix M that projects a vector b into the left nullspace of A, aka the nullspace of A transpose.

Homework Equations



A = matrix
A ^ T = A transpose
A ^ -1 = inverse of A
e = b - A x (hat)
e = b-p

I know that the matrix P that projects the vector b into the collumn space of A is P = A(A ^T*A)^-1 A^T. Col space is orthogonal to the left nullspace

The Attempt at a Solution



Since Col space is orth to left null, I was thinking of just find a matrix that, when doted with P is equal to zero (the definition of orthogonality); but that's what they want us to do in part b

Also, since we can get the left nullspace from the column space, i was thinking we could just apply that to P in order to get M (as in find the left null space of P) but the problem is that A is not given

Third idea; the error e used in finding P is in the left nullspace. so if i could somehow make it only have a component in the left nullspace, none in the column space, i could somehow find P.

So i have plenty of ideas, but no idea how to implement them. any help would be GREATLY appreciated, as this pset is due in 3 hours!
 
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heh, it is actually very simple... and you have basically solved it... yes use that error term...

a vector consists of components in Col A and components in Col A perp... so v=x+y, x in Col A and y in Col A prep. just subtract y from x and there you go!

x=Px + y, so y=x-Px or just (I-P)x

edit: fixed the typo.
 
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This doesn't look right. If A has a non-trivial nullspace, then (ATA)-1 doesn't exist, so your formula for the matrix which projects to column space of A doesn't make sense when A is singular. On the other hand, if A is non-singular, then A(ATA)-1AT = I, so your formula just gives the identity function, but it's obvious that the identity function is what projects the column space of A when A is non-singular.
 
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I think he meant that A is the matrix whose columns span a vector space. thus A is nonsingular (though not necessarily a square matrix). the P matrix is the projection operator of a vector onto Col A. of course, if A is a square matrix.. there is nothing to project, thus P becomes identity.

edit: sry I meant the columns of A consists of a set of basis for Col A.
 
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Every matrix's columns span a vector space. The columns of the zero matrix span the vector space {0}. What you need is that if A is mxn, then rank(A) = n, or something like that. If we're allowed to assume this, then you've already given away the answer, so there's nothing left for the original poster to do. But nothing warrants this assumption in the first place.
 

1. What is the left null space?

The left null space, also known as the kernel, is the set of all vectors that when multiplied by a matrix, result in a zero vector. In other words, it is the set of all solutions to the homogeneous equation Ax = 0, where A is the matrix.

2. Why is projection into the left null space important?

Projection into the left null space is important because it allows us to find solutions to homogeneous equations. It also has applications in data compression and image processing.

3. How is projection into the left null space calculated?

The projection into the left null space is calculated by first finding the basis for the left null space using techniques such as row reduction. Then, the projection matrix can be constructed using the basis vectors and the projection can be performed by multiplying the projection matrix by a vector.

4. What is the relation between the left null space and the null space?

The left null space and the null space are related because they both represent the solutions to a homogeneous equation. However, the null space represents the solutions to the equation Ax = 0, while the left null space represents the solutions to the transpose of the equation ATy = 0.

5. How does projection into the left null space affect the rank of a matrix?

Projection into the left null space does not affect the rank of a matrix. The rank of a matrix is determined by the number of linearly independent rows or columns, and projection into the left null space does not change the linear independence of the rows or columns.

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