Proof about product of 4 integers

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The problem involves proving that the product of four consecutive integers is always one less than a perfect square. The discussion centers around algebraic manipulation and factorization of the expression representing the product of these integers.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore various algebraic forms of the product of four consecutive integers and attempt to relate it to perfect squares. There are discussions about factoring and the implications of odd and even integers in the context of the problem.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their attempts and insights. Some guidance has been offered regarding factorization and the relationship between the product and perfect squares, but no consensus or resolution has been reached yet.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the relevance of certain number theory concepts and the implications of divisibility in their attempts to prove the statement. There is an acknowledgment of the complexity of the problem and the need for further exploration.

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Homework Statement


Prove that the product of four consecutive integers is always one less than a perfect square.

The Attempt at a Solution


I tried looking at the product (n-1)(n)(n+1)(n+2)=x^2-1
but i couldn't seem to get anything useful out of it. I added one to both sides .
I tried to see if i could some how show that the product of the four integers plus 1 had an odd number of divisors but I couldn't see a way to do it. I did notice that these numbers are never divisible by 2,3,or 4, and a lot of the time they produce a prime, all though I didn't check very many.
And when it wasn't a prime it was divisible by 5. I was trying to think of a way to do this with Pythagorean triples but I am not sure.
 
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cragar said:
I tried looking at the product (n-1)(n)(n+1)(n+2)=x^2-1
but i couldn't seem to get anything useful out of it.

Look harder :smile:. Don't overthink the problem with the other ideas you tried. This doesn't depend on any theorems in number theory!

It's hard to give a hint without telling you the answer, but think about what you can you do with ##x^2-1##.
 
are you talking about factoring it into (x+1)(x-1) I not sure how that helps I did look at that. we do know that x needs to be odd. so x=2y+1 so (2y+1+1)(2y+1-1)=(2y+2)(2y)=4y(y+1) I still don't see how it will work. I guess Ill keep trying stuff. thanks for your post.
 
cragar said:
are you talking about factoring it into (x+1)(x-1) I not sure how that helps

Don't bother about x being odd or even. Just factor the left hand side into the same form.
 
So we have (n^2-1)(n)(n+2)=x^2-1 I just don't see what this does, I can see how we have similar things on both sides. but it seems like we still have 2 extra terms on the left side.
 
Try taking different pairs of factors from ##(n-1)(n)(n+1)(n+2)## to get ##(an^2 + bn + c -1)(an^2 + bn + c + 1)##.

Or, factorize ##(n-1)(n)(n+1)(n+2) + 1## into a perfect square, like ##(an^2 + bn + c)^2##. It's not hard to guess the values of ##a## and ##c##.
 
ok thanks for your help, I see it now
 

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