Proof of cos(θ +ϕ)=cosθ cosϕ - sinθsinϕ via Cartesian Orthogonal Triad

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The discussion focuses on deriving the trigonometric identity cos(θ + ϕ) = cosθ cosϕ - sinθ sinϕ using the scalar product of vectors in Cartesian coordinates. Participants suggest simplifying the problem by using two-dimensional vectors, specifically A = (cosθ, sinθ) and B = (cosϕ, sinϕ). By calculating the dot product of these vectors, they demonstrate that it leads to the identity in question. The conversation emphasizes the importance of abstract representation over numerical assignments to clarify the proof. Overall, the participants reach a better understanding of the relationship between the dot product and the trigonometric identity.
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Homework Statement


Derive an expression for the scalar product of a and b if the two vectors are written in terms of the usual Cartesian orthogonal triad i, j, k.
By an appropriate choice of a and b, verify the trigonometric identity

cos(θ +ϕ) = cosθ cosϕ − sinθsinϕ

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a.b=|a||b|Cosθ

The Attempt at a Solution



So dot product in Cartesian is:

a=(x1)i + (x2)j + (x3)k
b=(y1)i + (y2)j + (y3)k

(x1)(y1) + (x2)(y2) + (x3)(y3) = ((x1)^2+(x2)^2+(x3)^2)^(1/2)((y1)^2+(y2)^2+(y3)^2)^(1/2)Cosθ

But how can I use this to prove the identity mentioned above?

Please send me some ideas.

Cheers
 
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It's a lot easier, if you leave out the third dimension for now.
Try drawing the unit circle and see if you can find some vectors whose |a||b|cos(angle) equals cos(θ +ϕ). Now find the cartesian notation for these two vectors and dot them like you wrote. You should see the result come from thin air about now.
 
Ok so I draw this (attachment), and I assigned A= 2i+j and B=i+2j

for |a||b|Cosθ I ended up with ((5)^1/2)((5)^1/2)(4/5) = 4

but for the Cos(ϕ+ɣ) I got 3/5

are angles wrong?
 

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Euhm, i don't know about the numbers, but try to make it more abstract.
Don't necessarily assign numbers to the vectors, but just symbols.
For instance, if the vector A is ( Cosθ , Sinθ ), then what? What other vector (which is a little like this one) could you use to prove it?
 
could B be (Cosϕ, Sinϕ)?
 
Since the sizes are 1, |a||b|cos(angle) gives Cos(θ - ϕ) and the usual dot product gives a.b=CosθCosϕ+SinθSinϕ.. since the two are equal, you've showed that Cos(θ - ϕ)=CosθCosϕ+SinθSinϕ. But that's just a minus away from the result. Remember, that sin(-ɣ)=-sin(ɣ) and cos(-ɣ)=cos(ɣ).
 
Ok thanks for the help. At least now I understand it a little bit better.

Cheers
 
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