Proof of G Abelian When 3-abelian & 5-abelian

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In summary, if a group G is both 3-abelian and 5-abelian, then it can be proven that G is commutative in general.
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A group G is both 3-abelian and 5-abelian, then prove that G abelian in general.

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Here is my solution :

$(ab)^3 = a^3\cdot b^3$ implies $(ab)^2 = b^2\cdot a^2$ and $(ab)^5 = a^5\cdot b^5$ implies $(ab)^4 = b^4\cdot a^4$.

Using both of these, we conclude that the square elements in $G$ commutes, i.e, $a^2\cdot b^2 = b^2\cdot a^2$.

Now, $(ab)^3 = (ab)\cdot(ab)^2 = (ab)\cdot(b^2\cdot a^2) = (ab)\cdot(a^2\cdot b^2) = a^3\cdot b^3 = a\cdot(a^2 * b^2)\cdot b$, after elimination by right and left cancellation laws, we reckon that the square elements of $G$ commutes with any other elements of $G$, i.e. $a^2\cdot b = b\cdot a^2$.

Since $G$ is 3-abelian, every 3rd power and 2nd power commutes, i.e, $a^3\cdot b^2 = a^2\cdot b^3$. Since $G$ is also 5-abelian, $a^5\cdot b^4 = b^4\cdot a^5$.

It can also be derived that $a^4\cdot b^3 = b^3\cdot a^4$ by the previous property that the square element commutes with any other element of $G$.

Now $a^4\cdot b^3 = b^3\cdot a^4$ implies $b\cdot(a^4\cdot b^3) = b^4\cdot a^4 = a^4\cdot b^4$.

Hence, by associativity, $(ba)\cdot(a^3\cdot b^3) = a^4\cdot b^4 = (ba)^4$, so, $a^3\cdot b^3 = (ba)^3$.

Note that by definition of $G$, $(ba)^3 = b^3\cdot a^3$, hence the cube elements in $G$ commute too.

Consider $b^4\cdot a^5 = a^5\cdot b^4 = a^2\cdot(a^3\cdot b^3)\cdot b = a^2\cdot(b^3\cdot a^3)\cdot b = (a^2\cdot b^3)\cdot(a^3\cdot b) = (b^3\cdot a^2)\cdot(a^3\cdot b) = b^3\cdot(a^5\cdot b)$.

By left cancellation law, $b\cdot a^5 = a^5\cdot b$. From this, we can easily derive that $b\cdot a^3 = a^3\cdot b$.

If we write this explicitly, $b\cdot a^3 = b\cdot (a^2\cdot a) = (b\cdot a^2)\cdot a = (a^2\cdot b)\cdot a = a^2 (b\cdot a) = a^3\cdot b$.

By left cancellation, $b\cdot a = a\cdot b$, hence $G$ is commutative.
 
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so $(ab)^5 = a^5b^5 $ implies $(ba)^4 = a^4b^4$ (1)
and $(ab)^3 = a^3b^3 $ implies $(ba)^2 = a^2b^2$ (2)

so $baba*(ba)^2 = baba*aabb$
using (1) $baba*aabb = a^4b^4$, so
using (2), $aabb*aabb = a^4b^4$or
$bbaa = a^2b^2$
plugging this into (2)
$baba = bbaa$
or ab = ba.
 

Related to Proof of G Abelian When 3-abelian & 5-abelian

What does it mean for a group to be 3-abelian?

A group is considered 3-abelian if its elements commute in groups of three. This means that for any three elements a, b, and c in the group, the equation (abc) = (bca) = (cab) holds true.

What does it mean for a group to be 5-abelian?

A group is considered 5-abelian if its elements commute in groups of five. This means that for any five elements a, b, c, d, and e in the group, the equation (abcde) = (bcdea) = (cdeab) = (deabc) = (eabcd) holds true.

What is the relationship between 3-abelian and 5-abelian groups?

A 3-abelian group is a special case of a 5-abelian group, as the elements in a 3-abelian group also commute in groups of five. However, not all 5-abelian groups are 3-abelian.

Why is it important to prove that a group is Abelian?

Proving that a group is Abelian can provide important insights into the structure and properties of the group. It can also simplify calculations and make it easier to understand and manipulate the group.

What techniques are commonly used to prove that a group is Abelian?

One common technique is to use the commutator subgroup, which is a subgroup of a group that contains all elements that do not commute with at least one other element. If the commutator subgroup is the trivial group, then the original group is Abelian. Other techniques may involve proving that certain elements commute or using properties of the group's operation.

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