Proof of Logaritmetic Problem: x-1/2x^2 < ln(1+x) < x

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In summary, the identity may be proved by using the expansion series for ln(1+x) but this holds for |x|<1. show that (for all posetive x)x-1/2 x^2<ln(1+x)<x
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show that (for all posetive x)
x-1/2 x^2<ln(1+x)<x

i understand it in graf please prove it for my in methemathic
 
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reza said:
show that (for all posetive x)
x-1/2 x^2<ln(1+x)<x

i understand it in graf please prove it for my in methemathic

does the 1st inequality mean [tex] x-\frac{x^2}{2} < \ln (1+x) [/tex] ?
i suppose this will be true for only |x|<1
 
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yes you right x - (x^2)/2
and in the book (calculus , rechard a.silverman) has written for x>0
Do you need the adress of problem?
 
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ok sorry about that...the problem's fine , i mistook the signs.
The identity may be proved by using the expansion series for ln(1+x) but this holds for |x|<1.
 
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reza said:
show that (for all posetive x)
x-1/2 x^2<ln(1+x)<x

i understand it in graf please prove it for my in methemathic

Or, you can try to take the derivative and prove that it's either an increasing function, or a decreasing function (Have you covered how to differentiate a function?). It goes like this:

I am going to prove the ln(1 + x) < x for all x > 0 part.
Re-arrange the inequality gives:
ln(1 + x) - x < 0

Let f(x) = ln(1 + x) - x
Now, we have that f(0) = ln(1 + 0) - 0 = 0
[tex]f'(x) = \frac{1}{1 + x} - 1[/tex]
For x > 0, we have 1 + x > 1, hence 1 / (x + 1) < 1, hence 1 / (x + 1) - 1 < 0, so f'(x) < 0 for all x > 0. f(x) is a decreasing function for x > 0.

So, for x > 0, we have:
f(x) < f(0) <=> f(x) < 0 <=> ln(1 + x) - x < 0 <=> ln(1 + x) < x
 
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thank you very much but how we can prove the other side
 
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reza said:
thank you very much but how we can prove the other side

Have you tried anything? It's pretty much the same.
 
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f(x)=ln(x+1)-x+x^2/2
f'(x)=1/(x+1)-1+x=x^2/(x+1)>0
f'(x)>0 then it is increasing
So, for x > 0, we have:
f(x) > f(0) <=> f(x) > 0 <=> ln (x+1)-x+x^2/2>0 <=> ln (x+1)>x-x^2/2
is this proof Ok?
 

Related to Proof of Logaritmetic Problem: x-1/2x^2 < ln(1+x) < x

1. What is the proof of the logarithmic problem?

The proof of the logarithmic problem is a mathematical demonstration that shows the inequality x-1/2x^2 < ln(1+x) < x holds true for all real numbers greater than 0.

2. Why is the proof of the logarithmic problem important?

The proof of the logarithmic problem is important because it provides a mathematical justification for the inequality x-1/2x^2 < ln(1+x) < x, which is commonly used in various mathematical and scientific applications.

3. How is the proof of the logarithmic problem derived?

The proof of the logarithmic problem is derived using mathematical techniques such as algebra, calculus, and the properties of logarithms. It involves manipulating the given inequality to obtain a simpler form that can be easily proven.

4. Are there any limitations to the proof of the logarithmic problem?

The proof of the logarithmic problem is limited to real numbers greater than 0. It does not apply to complex numbers or negative numbers.

5. Can the proof of the logarithmic problem be extended to other logarithmic functions?

Yes, the proof of the logarithmic problem can be extended to other logarithmic functions as long as they have similar properties to the natural logarithm. However, the specific steps and techniques used in the proof may vary depending on the function.

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