Proof of mathematical theorems

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Mathematical theorems can be proven using only pen and paper, but computational tools are rarely necessary and typically only for exceptional cases. The ability to prove a theorem does not guarantee its truth, as demonstrated by Gödel's incompleteness theorems, which highlight that not all true statements can be proven within a given system. A theorem is defined as a well-formed formula with an existing proof, but inconsistencies in the axioms can lead to false claims being labeled as theorems. Therefore, it is crucial to verify the proof or outline provided to support any assertion of a theorem. Ultimately, the distinction between provability and truth is essential in understanding mathematical proofs.
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My question is simple. Can one prove any theorem in mathematics by having only a pen and a paper, or a super-computer for that matter?

Since math is essentially all about theorems, and we usually take them as true. I guess someone went in and proved them at some point in our history. But some of them are rather misteryous and I don't think their proof reduces to writing down equations and axioms.
 
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Are you the same @kent davidge , who's posted questions about general relativity? How is it that you don't understand the nature of mathematical proof?
 
Stephen Tashi said:
Are you the same @kent davidge , who's posted questions about general relativity? How is it that you don't understand the nature of mathematical proof?
yes, but it is the other way. I should not stick my nose everywhere. I'm having my first classes of special relativity in the uni, but you know, general relativity and quantum mechanics are more interesting.
 
kent davidge said:
Can one prove any theorem in mathematics by having only a pen and a paper, or a super-computer for that matter?
You don't need computation capacities, as these are only rarely used, mostly to cover a finite number of exceptional cases. In general, you cannot proof any theorem (cp. Gödel), but you don't know in advance and most common theorems can be proven or disproven by a counterexample. Whether this takes minutes or centuries is another question. And you probably should have access to a good library and many journals!
 
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kent davidge said:
Can one prove any theorem in mathematics by having only a pen and a paper, or a super-computer for that matter?
By definition, a theorem is a well formed formula for which a proof exists.

Note that the notion of being "true" and the notion of being "provable" are different. Neither implies the other.
 
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I would say "provable" implies "true".
 
Vanadium 50 said:
I would say "provable" implies "true".
In an inconsistent system, one can prove things that are not true. In a system where the axioms are not true, one can prove things that are not true.
 
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jbriggs444 said:
By definition, a theorem is a well formed formula for which a proof exists.
yes, the problem is that someone can make a false claim that a given assertion is a theorem
so we are left with no option but to believe what authors are claiming to be theorems
 
kent davidge said:
yes, the problem is that someone can make a false claim that a given assertion is a theorem
so we are left with no option but to believe what authors are claiming to be theorems
You could ask that a proof (or an outline thereof) be supplied as evidence for the claim that the assertion is a theorem.
 
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