Proof of Wick's Theorem for 3 fields

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The discussion centers on the proof of Wick's theorem for three fields, focusing on the time-ordered product of field operators. The initial attempt at the solution involves manipulating the time-ordered product and applying the normal ordering definition. A key realization is that the definition of 'normal-ordered' requires all creation operators to be on the left and all annihilation operators on the right, rather than just avoiding any permutation that would lead to the vacuum state vanishing. This understanding clarifies the mistake made in the initial approach, emphasizing the importance of fully normal ordering when applying Wick's theorem. The discussion concludes with an acknowledgment of the common nature of this mistake in the context of quantum field theory.
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Homework Statement



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Using the result from two fields that

## T(\phi(x) \phi(y))= : \phi(x) \phi(y) : + G(x-y)##

Where ##G(x-y) = [\phi(x)^+,\phi(y)^-] ##

## : ## denotes normal ordered

and ##\phi(x)^+ ## is the annihilation operator part , and ## \phi(x)^- ## is the creation operator part.

The Attempt at a Solution



Assume non-trivially that ## z^0 > x^0 > y^0 ##

Then ## T(\phi(z),\phi(x),\phi(y)) = \phi(z) T(\phi(x) \phi(y)) ##

##=(\phi(z)^+ + \phi(z)^-) T (\phi(x),\phi(y)) ##

Since ##\phi(z)^-## is already normal ordered, look at the term multiplied by ##\phi(z)^+##:

##=\phi(z)G(x-y) + \phi(z)^+:\phi(x)\phi(y): ## (1)

The term to be concerned with from

##\phi(z)^+:\phi(x)\phi(y):## is ##\phi(z)^+\phi(x)^-\phi(y)^-=\phi(x)^-\phi(z)^+\phi(y)^- +[\phi(z)^+,\phi(x)^-]\phi(y)^-= \phi(x)^-\phi(y)^-\phi(z)^+ +\phi(x)^-[\phi(z)^+,\phi(y)^-] + [ \phi(z)^+,\phi(x)^-]\phi(y)^-##

So putting this with (1) I have

## T(\phi(z),\phi(x),\phi(y)) = : \phi(z) (\phi(x) \phi(y)): + [ \phi(z)^+,\phi(x)^-]\phi(y)^- +\phi(x)^-[\phi(z)^+,\phi(y)^-] +\phi(z)(G(x-y)) ##

So looking at the solution the last term is right, but the other propagator terms , should have a factor of both the creation and annihilation parts of the field, ##\phi(y)^- + \phi(y)^+ ## and ## \phi(x)^+ + \phi(x)^- ## , multiplying the propagator? and should be multiplying the RHS of the propagator rather than the LHS ? I'm not sure what I have done wrong...

Many thanks in advance.
 
ok so I've figured out what i was doign wrong, and it's a pretty quick spot, and I assume perhaps a common sort of mistake , so I'm surprised no one replied but hey..

basically my definition of 'normal-ordered' was as soon as you had any permutation of the operators that would cause either the bra or ket of the vacuum to vanish ,so either to a creation ladder on the lhs or a annihilating on the rhs , thee job was done. when instead you needed ALL creation operators on the left and all annihilating operators on the rhs. I'm actually not to sure why this is, the use of wicks theorem I've seen is when a bunch of ladder operators are sandwhiched between the vacuum bra and ket, and so this would suffice to cause it to vanish. However if I think about a proof by induction, adding more fields to it, it makes sense that you'd want it 'fully normal-ordered'...

ta
 

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