Proof question related to the Ideal Gas Law

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The discussion centers on deriving the relationship between pressure and volume for a perfect gas using the Ideal Gas Law. Given an initial volume of V1 = 1m³ and initial pressure p1 = 1 bar, the gas is heated, doubling its volume and resulting in a final pressure of 5 bar. The relationship is established as 𝑝 − 𝑝1 ∝ 𝑉 − 𝑉1, with the constant of proportionality C expressed as C = k/A², where k is the spring constant and A is the area of the piston. The equilibrium force balance is crucial for solving the problem, involving the equations pA = kx + P1A.

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A cylinder contains an initial volume V1 = 1m^^3 of a perfect gas at initial pressure p1 = 1 bar, confined by a piston that is held in place by a spring. The gas is heated until its volume is doubled and the final pressure is 5 bar. Assuming that the mass of the piston is negligible and that the initial force on the spring is zero, show that the pressure and volume V are related according to: 𝑝 − 𝑝1 ∝ 𝑉 − 𝑉1

I tried to work this backward so 𝑝 − 𝑝1 = k (𝑉 − 𝑉1) where k is the constant. After that, I don't know how to go about solving this question. Are we assuming the temperature remains constant in this question?
 
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From freshman physics, we learned how do do an equilibrium force balance. So, if the area of the piston is A and the displacement of the piston (and spring) is x, what is your equilibrium force balance?
 
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One observation is that the external pressure must also be ## p_1 ##. The rest is basically an ideal spring problem.
Note: They could also ask you to compute the final temperature w.r.t. the initial temperature, (assuming ideal gas law), and they could even ask you to compute the spring constant ## k ## in terms of the other parameters including the area).
 
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Forces need to balance so it will follow as this pA = kx + P1A and we know that change of volume, V-V1 is proportional to x where x is the length of the spring that is getting compressed. With a few rearrangements, I should get the answer.
 
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Note that you know the constant of proportionality here: ## V-V_1=Ax ##.
 
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Charles Link said:
Note that you know the constant of proportionality here: ## V-V_1=Ax ##.
Thank you Charles and Chestermiller :angel::angel:
 
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Let's see your final result=what do you get for ## C ## where ## p-p_1=C(V-V_1) ##?
 
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Chestermiller said:
From freshman physics, we learned how do do an equilibrium force balance. So, if the area of the piston is A and the displacement of the piston (and spring) is x, what is your equilibrium force balance?

Charles Link said:
Let's see your final result=what do you get for ## C ## where ## p-p_1=C(V-V_1) ##?
Does C = k/A2 where k is the spring constant and A is area of the piston?
 
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Kajan thana said:
Does C = k/A2 where k is the spring constant and A is area of the piston?
Thank you again.. you are a star..
 
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