Proof w/ natural log and Riemann Sum

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The problem involves using mathematical induction to prove inequalities related to the exponential function \( e^x \) for \( x \geq 0 \) and any positive integer \( n \). The discussion also explores implications of these inequalities, including showing that \( e > 2.7 \) and analyzing the limit of \( \frac{e^x}{x^k} \) as \( x \) approaches infinity for any positive integer \( k \).

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the base case for induction and the correct variable for induction, questioning the application of induction on \( x \) versus \( n \). There are attempts to establish the inequality for \( e^x \) and the series expansion, with suggestions to differentiate or use definite integrals to progress the proof.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active with participants providing various insights and questioning assumptions. Some participants have offered guidance on how to approach the proof, while others are exploring different interpretations of the induction process and the implications of differentiation.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted confusion regarding the use of induction on a real variable versus a positive integer, and the participants are navigating the constraints of the problem as they relate to the definitions and assumptions involved.

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Problem states:

(A) Use mathematical induction to prove that for [tex]x\geq0[/tex] and any positive integer [tex]n[/tex].
[tex]e^x\geq1+x+\frac{x^2}{2!}+...+\frac{x^n}{n!}[/tex]

(B) Use part (A) to show that [tex]e>2.7[/tex].
(C) Use part (A) to show that
[tex]\lim_{x\rightarrow\infty} \frac{e^x}{x^k} = \infty[/tex]
for any positive integer [tex]k[/tex].

I thought that I could easily show that e to the x power was greater than 1 and if I could show that it was greater than 1 plus the Riemann sum:
[tex]\sum_{i=1}^n \frac{x^n}{n!}[/tex] then I would have my proof...
 
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Base case x = 0 then the LHS becomes [itex]e^0 = 1[/itex] and the RHS becomes [itex]1 + 0 + ... + 0[/itex]. So the inequality holds. For x = k then you have [tex]e^k \geq 1 + k + \frac {k^2}{2} + ... + \frac {k^n}{n!}[/tex]. Now you do x = k+1 and you have [tex]e^k e = e^{k+1} \geq e + ek + e \frac {k^2}{2} + ... + \frac {ek^n}{n!}[/tex]. Clearly [tex]e>1,\ ek> k,\ e\frac {k^2}{2} > \frac {(k+1)^2}{2}[/tex] and so on. Therefore

[tex]e^{k+1} \geq 1 + (k+1) + \frac {(k+1)^2}{2} + ... + \frac {(k+1)^n}{n!}[/tex]
 
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Corneo said:
Base case x = 0 then the LHS becomes [itex]e^0 = 1[/itex] and the RHS becomes [itex]1 + 0 + ... + 0[/itex].

No! x is a real variable so you can't do induction on x! The "induction variable" is n. The base case is for n=0. Prove that for x>= 0, ex>= 1 (which is easy: ex is an increasing function.)

Now, assume that ex>= 1+ x+ (1/2)x2+ ...+ (1/k!)xk for some k. You need to prove that ex>= 1+ x+ (1/2)x2+ ...+ (1/k!)xk+ (1/(k+1)!)xk+1.

What happens if you assume that is not true, that ex< 1+ x+ (1/2)x2+ ...+ (1/k!)xk+ (1/(k+1)!)xk+1 and differentiate both sides?
 
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HallsofIvy said:
What happens if you assume that is not true, that ex< 1+ x+ (1/2)x2+ ...+ (1/k!)xk+ (1/(k+1)!)xk+1 and differentiate both sides?

Not much, differentiation might not preseve the inequality (I might not see what you have in mind here?)

You can go from k to k+1 by a definite integral though (I'll leave it to Xcron to set up).
 

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