Propagation of Error for Focal Length

AI Thread Summary
The discussion focuses on calculating the focal length of a lens while propagating measurement errors from object distances (s) and image distances (s'). The uncertainties in measurements are Delta s = +/- 1mm and Delta s' = +/- 2.5mm. Two main approaches for error propagation are highlighted: using extreme value combinations for engineering applications and a statistical approach for scientific calculations. It is emphasized that the standard formulas for error propagation assume independent measurements, and adjustments are needed when applying them to the focal length formula. The conversation concludes with a suggestion to reformulate the equation to better account for error propagation.
Browntown
Messages
18
Reaction score
0
Homework Statement: Propagation of Error for Focal Length
Homework Equations: f = (s'*s) / (s' + s)

In my lab, we had to calculate the focal length of a lens based on object distances (s) and image distances (s') that we measured. The object distances were measured with an uncertainty of Delta s = +/- 1mm and image distances were measured with an uncertainty of Delta s' = +/- 2.5 mm.

Since we had to add, multiply and divide values, I'm not quite sure what to do to propagate the error from those two values into the one for focal length.

Any help would be much appreciated.

Thank you.

[Moderator's note: Moved here as it is of general interest and not a specific homework exercise.]
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Physics news on Phys.org
Browntown said:
Homework Statement: Propagation of Error for Focal Length
Homework Equations: f = (s'*s) / (s' + s)

In my lab, we had to calculate the focal length of a lens based on object distances (s) and image distances (s') that we measured. The object distances were measured with an uncertainty of Delta s = +/- 1mm and image distances were measured with an uncertainty of Delta s' = +/- 2.5 mm.

Since we had to add, multiply and divide values, I'm not quite sure what to do to propagate the error from those two values into the one for focal length.

Any help would be much appreciated.

Thank you.
There are two approaches to this.
In engineering, where tolerance limits may be crucial, you simply plug in combinations of extreme values and look at the results that come out.
In science, it is standard to use a statistical approach. See http://lectureonline.cl.msu.edu/~mmp/labs/error/e2.htm for the formulae that apply to products and sums. However, the formulae there assume the measurements are independent. If you treat the s' in the numerator as independent of the s' in the denominator you will get a greater error than is correct. So to use these formulas you need to put the equation into the form ##f=\frac 1{\frac 1s+\frac 1{s'}}##.
 
Oh ok, thank you, I'll give that a try
 
Thread 'Gauss' law seems to imply instantaneous electric field'
Imagine a charged sphere at the origin connected through an open switch to a vertical grounded wire. We wish to find an expression for the horizontal component of the electric field at a distance ##\mathbf{r}## from the sphere as it discharges. By using the Lorenz gauge condition: $$\nabla \cdot \mathbf{A} + \frac{1}{c^2}\frac{\partial \phi}{\partial t}=0\tag{1}$$ we find the following retarded solutions to the Maxwell equations If we assume that...
Maxwell’s equations imply the following wave equation for the electric field $$\nabla^2\mathbf{E}-\frac{1}{c^2}\frac{\partial^2\mathbf{E}}{\partial t^2} = \frac{1}{\varepsilon_0}\nabla\rho+\mu_0\frac{\partial\mathbf J}{\partial t}.\tag{1}$$ I wonder if eqn.##(1)## can be split into the following transverse part $$\nabla^2\mathbf{E}_T-\frac{1}{c^2}\frac{\partial^2\mathbf{E}_T}{\partial t^2} = \mu_0\frac{\partial\mathbf{J}_T}{\partial t}\tag{2}$$ and longitudinal part...

Similar threads

Back
Top