Prove that if p > 3 is prime, then p^2 = 6k + 1.

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The problem involves proving that for any prime number p greater than 3, the expression p^2 can be represented in the form 6k + 1 for some integer k. The discussion centers around properties of prime numbers and modular arithmetic, specifically modulo 6.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the implications of p being a prime number and its possible values modulo 6. There is exploration of why certain values (0, 2, 4, and 3) are excluded from consideration. Questions arise regarding the reasoning behind computing p mod 6 and the implications of the results for proving the statement.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights into the reasoning behind the modular arithmetic involved, while others express confusion about specific aspects of the proof and seek further clarification. There is an acknowledgment of the two cases (p mod 6 = 1 and p mod 6 = 5) and their outcomes, but not all participants agree on the clarity of the initial reasoning.

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Participants note that the problem requires understanding of congruences and properties of prime numbers, and some express uncertainty about the necessity of the modular computations in the proof.

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Homework Statement


Problem:
Prove that if p is a prime number larger than 3, then p^2 = 6k + 1 for some k ∈ ℤ.

Correct Solution:
"Note that if p is a prime number larger than 3, then p mod 6 cannot be 0, 2, or 4 as this would mean p is even, and cannot be 3 as this would mean p is a multiple of 3.

The only two remaining cases are p mod 6 = 1 or p mod 6 = 5.

p mod 6 = 1: Then p = 6k + 1 for some k ∈ Z. This means
p 2 = 36k^2 + 12k + 1 = 6(6k^2 + 2k) + 1 = 6i + 1 where i = 6k^2 + 2k.

p mod 6 = 5: Then p = 6k + 5 for some k ∈ Z. This means p 2 = 36k^2 + 60k + 25 =
6(6k^2 + 10k + 4) + 1 = 6i + 1 where i = 6k^2 + 10k + 4.

In both cases, we have the desired result."

Homework Equations


Modulo computations.

The Attempt at a Solution


I understand why the remainder/value of p mod 6 cannot be 0, 2 or 4, because the non-remainder part would be divisible by 6 (and therefore divisible by 2), and the remainder part would also be divisible by 2, therefore the entire number p would be divisible by 2, which would mean that it is even, and if a number greater than 3 is even then it is divisible by a number other than 1 or itself, so it is not prime.

I also get that p mod 6 = 3 would mean that p is a multiple of 3, and p cannot be 3 (since it must be larger than 3 as stated in the problem), but I don't get why it cannot be other multiples of 3 like 9.

And, I don't get why the solution is computing p mod 6 in the first place.

As for evaluating the p mod 6 = 1 and p mod 6 = 5 cases, I do understand what's going on there.

Could someone please help me fully understand what the solution is saying?

Any input would be GREATLY appreciated!
 
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Like you said, we know for sure that p = 1 (mod 6) or p = 5 (mod 6). If p = 1 (mod 6), then p^2 = 1^2 = 1 (mod 6), and we're done. Else, p = 5 = -1 (mod 6), and so p^2 = (-1)*(-1) = 1 (mod 6). p can't equal 3 mod 6, else it'd be divisible by 3 (like 9), and p wouldn't be prime.
 
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I also get that p mod 6 = 3 would mean that p is a multiple of 3, and p cannot be 3 (since it must be larger than 3 as stated in the problem), but I don't get why it cannot be other multiples of 3 like 9.

And, I don't get why the solution is computing p mod 6 in the first place.

On the first point, why not construct a short proof yourself to show that:

If p = 3 mod 6 then p is divisible by 3. Hence p is not prime (p > 3).

On the second point, the proof is in two parts. First, it establishes which congruences mod 6 are potentially prime: only 1 and 5. Then shows that both, when squared, are equal to 1 mod 6.

You could try an alternative proof starting with ##p^2 mod 6## and working back. But it wouldn't be as neat.
 
This is a really easy problem, read a little bit of congruence theory...
 
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