Prove that the derivative of an odd function is even

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The discussion revolves around proving that the derivative of an odd function is even and the derivative of an even function is odd. Participants are exploring the definitions of even and odd functions and how these properties relate to their derivatives.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants suggest using the limit definition of the derivative and the chain rule to explore the relationships between the derivatives of even and odd functions. There is uncertainty about how to apply these definitions rigorously.

Discussion Status

Some participants have begun to articulate their understanding of the problem and are attempting to apply mathematical principles, such as the chain rule, to derive the necessary proofs. There is a mix of confusion and progress as they work through the concepts.

Contextual Notes

Participants express difficulty in using the limit definition without a specific function and question the implications of their findings regarding the properties of derivatives for even and odd functions.

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Homework Statement


A function f is an even function is f(-x)=f(x) for all x and is an odd function is f(-x)=-f(x) for all x. Prove that the derivative of an odd function is even and the derivative of an even function is off. I get what even and odd functions are but I'm not sure how to rigorously prove this.


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Not sure how to start. Maybe use limit definition?
 
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Write the definition of the derivative as:
[tex] f'(a)=\lim_{x\rightarrow a}\frac{f(x)-f(a)}{x-a}[/tex]
and apply the definition of an odd function.
 
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NWeid1 said:

Homework Statement


A function f is an even function is f(-x)=f(x) for all x and is an odd function is f(-x)=-f(x) for all x. Prove that the derivative of an odd function is even and the derivative of an even function is off. I get what even and odd functions are but I'm not sure how to rigorously prove this.


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The Attempt at a Solution


Not sure how to start. Maybe use limit definition?

Yes, use the limit definition of derivative. Now try and get started.
 
hunt_mat said:
Write the definition of the derivative as:
[tex] f'(x)=\lim_{x\rightarrow a}\frac{f(x)-f(a)}{x-a}[/tex]
and apply the definition of an odd function.

That's f'(a), right?
 
I just don't understand how to use limit definition of just f(x) and not an actualy given function.
 
Dick said:
That's f'(a), right?
Yes, changed.
 
NWeid1 said:

Homework Statement


A function f is an even function is f(-x)=f(x) for all x and is an odd function is f(-x)=-f(x) for all x. Prove that the derivative of an odd function is even and the derivative of an even function is off. I get what even and odd functions are but I'm not sure how to rigorously prove this.


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The Attempt at a Solution


Not sure how to start. Maybe use limit definition?

Chain rule is the easiest way, if you're allowed to use it. What's the derivative of (-x)? Work with that.
 
Yeah, I thought about using chain rule, but how could I prove it using the chain rule? I am just so confused by this concept -.- lol
 
NWeid1 said:
Yeah, I thought about using chain rule, but how could I prove it using the chain rule? I am just so confused by this concept -.- lol

The chain rule is essentially about differentiating the composition of two (or more) functions - meaning functions applied "one on top of another".

Say you have the composite function f(g(x)). Let's put g(x) = y

By Chain Rule,

f'(g(x)) = df/dx = (df/dy)*(dy/dx) = f'(y)*g'(x) = f'(g(x))*g'(x)

Now put g(x) = -x. What happens to f'(g(x))?

For an odd function, f(-x) = -f(x). What's the relationship between f'(-x) and f'(x)?

For an even function, f(-x) = f(x). What's the relationship between f'(-x) and f'(x)?
 
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NWeid1 said:
Yeah, I thought about using chain rule, but how could I prove it using the chain rule? I am just so confused by this concept -.- lol

If you can get the even or odd case using the chain rule, then you can probably figure out how to do it from the limit definition. It's not that different. You use the same idea.
 
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I think I got it, and it was so much easier than what I thought.

For an even function:
f(x) = f(-x)
Take the derivative of each side (chain rule for f(-x))
f'(x) = -f(-x)
f(-x) = -f(x), therefore it is an off function.

and so the same process for an odd function. Am I right?
 
  • #12
NWeid1 said:
I think I got it, and it was so much easier than what I thought.

For an even function:
f(x) = f(-x)
Take the derivative of each side (chain rule for f(-x))
f'(x) = -f(-x)
f(-x) = -f(x), therefore it is an off function.

and so the same process for an odd function. Am I right?

You probably would be if you weren't being so sloppy. You meant f'(x)=-f'(-x). I hope.
 
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Lol. Yeah. My B
 

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