Prove that the sequence does not have a convergent subsequence

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The discussion revolves around proving convergence properties in product topological spaces. It establishes that a sequence converges in the product space if and only if its projections converge in each component space. The second part of the exercise involves demonstrating that a specific sequence does not have a convergent subsequence within the space of sequences mapping to {-1, 1}. Participants are encouraged to clarify the definitions of convergence and product topology to aid in their proofs. The thread highlights the complexity of these concepts in topology and the need for a solid understanding of foundational principles.
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Hello i have problems with this exersice

Let $$\{X_{\alpha}\}_{\alpha \in I}$$ a collection of topological spaces and $$X=\prod_{\alpha \in I}X_{\alpha}$$ the product space. Let $$p_{\alpha}:X\rightarrow X_{\alpha}$$, $$\alpha\in I$$, be the canonical projections

a)Prove that a sequence $$\{a_n\}$$ converges on $$X$$ if and only if the sequence $$\{p_{\alpha}(a_n)\}$$ converges on $$X_{\alpha}$$ for all $$\alpha \in I$$.

b) Let $$I$$ the set of all sequences $$\alpha:\mathbb{Z}_{\geq 1}\rightarrow \{-1,1\}$$. Let the sequense $$a_n=\prod_{\alpha \in I}\alpha(n)\in [-1,1]^{I}$$. Prove that $$\{a_n\}$$ does not have a convergent subsequence. Is $$[-1,1]^{I}$$ sequentially compact? Is $$[-1,1]^{I}$$ firts contable?

My attempt:
a) Take $$I = \mathbb{N}$$ and $$X_i = \mathbb{R}$$ for all $$i \in \mathbb{N}$$. Now the elements in $$X$$ are real sequences and the goal is to prove that if $$a_n$$ is a sequence of these sequences (i.e. a bi-infinite real sequence), then it converges if and only if the real sequence $$a_n^{(k)}$$ converges for all $$k \in \mathbb{N}$$.

How would the demonstration of the general case be?

b) I don't know
 
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May be you can start with reminding yourself what it means for a sequence in a topological space to converge, and what the product topology is.
 
If you put your LaTeX code in [itex] tags, it will be set inline. This takes up less space and makes your post easier to read:

Let \{X_{\alpha}\}_{\alpha \in I} a collection of topological spaces and X=\prod_{\alpha \in I}X_{\alpha} the product space. Let p_{\alpha}:X\rightarrow X_{\alpha}, \alpha\in I, be the canonical projections

a)Prove that a sequence \{a_n\} converges on X if and only if the sequence \{p_{\alpha}(a_n)\} converges on X_{\alpha} for all \alpha \in I.

b) Let I the set of all sequences \alpha:\mathbb{Z}_{\geq 1}\rightarrow \{-1,1\}. Let the sequense a_n=\prod_{\alpha \in I}\alpha(n)\in [-1,1]^{I}. Prove that \{a_n\} does not have a convergent subsequence. Is [-1,1]^{I} sequentially compact? Is [-1,1]^{I} firts contable?
 
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pasmith said:
If you put your LaTeX code in [itex] tags, it will be set inline.
... or between pairs of ## tags, which I find easier to type. I don't use the itex ... /itex or tex ... /tex tags at all.
 
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