Prove that three functions form a dual basis

Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around proving that three functions form a dual basis within the context of linear algebra and vector spaces. Participants are exploring concepts related to linear independence, dual spaces, and transformations between spaces.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the challenge of proving linear independence without numerical values and question the implications of a matrix being regular. There is also exploration of the definitions and properties of dual spaces and transformation matrices.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with participants providing insights and clarifications about the concepts involved. Some guidance has been offered regarding the structure of the equations and the nature of the dual space, while multiple interpretations of the problem are being considered.

Contextual Notes

There are references to specific mathematical constructs such as the canonical basis of a vector space and the need for additional properties to determine whether the functions form a basis. Participants are also navigating terminology that may vary due to translation from another language.

Forco
Messages
6
Reaction score
0

Homework Statement


Homework Equations

[/B]
Z95rV0g.png

The Attempt at a Solution


c2Pb0TP.png

From that point, I don't know what to do. How do I prove linear independence if I have no numerical values? Thank you.
 
Physics news on Phys.org
I think you made some mistakes with your indices calculating the ##F_i(p)##.
Can you tell what ##E^*## is? Do you know any basis of it?
Edit: However, your matrix ##F_i(V_j) = (\frac{1}{j+1} \cdot m_i^{j+1})_{j,i}## seems to be correct. Is it a transformation of basis, i.e. an isomorphism?
 
Last edited:
Yeah, probably got confused with the different sub indices and I'm relatively new to latex, so yeah, sorry. But you said the matrix is correct, so...
That is the dual space of E, a basis can be easily constructed from n linearly independent functions, in this case, three.
And is it a transformation matrix from E \rightarrow E^* ?
 
I've thought it this way. ##E^*## is the vector space of all linear functions ##φ : ℝ^2[t] → ℝ##. The canonical basis of ##E## is ##\{1,t,t^2\}##. So the goal is to write any ##φ∈E^*## as a linear combination of ##F_0,F_1,F_2##, i.e. solve the linear equation ##φ=x_0F_0+x_1F_1+x_2F_2##, i.e. ##φ = (F_i(V_j))_{j,i} \vec{x}##.

In coordinates it is ##φ(1) = φ(1,0,0), φ(t) = φ(0,1,0), φ(t^2) = φ(0,0,1),## and it's a clearer (to me) to write ##F_i(p)=F_i(a_0,a_1,a_2)## instead.
To decide whether the ##F_i## form a basis you will probably need another property given at the beginning. You can either solve the linear equation(s) or find an argument why the matrix is regular.

(For further talk remind me please what is meant by anti-dual basis of ##B^*##. Is it a basis of ##(E^*)^*##?)
 
Yeah, but how do I go on about solving the system with no numbers? That is my main problem...
Also, why is the matrix being regular relevant? Doesn't that just mean that there is a number n such that the entries of A^n are all positive?
Also, the anti dual basis would be the basis for which B^* is the dual basis. Sorry about the confusing terms, I translated the problem from french.
 
Last edited:
Alors. You have numbers, mainly the coordinates. Therefore I wrote e.g ##φ(t)=φ(0,1,0)## and ##F_i(p) = F_i(a_0,a_1,a_2)##. This gives you the equation
$$φ(t)=φ(0,1,0)=\sum_{i=0}^{i=3} x_i F_i(0,1,0)= \frac{1}{2} x_0 m_0^2 + \frac{1}{2} x_1 m_1^2 + \frac{1}{2} x_2 m_2^2$$ and similar the other two. You can also prove that your matrix above is regular. The three (fixed), and (pairwise) different ##m_i## are given constants. (Another triple would give you another basis, so you have to do the work in dependence of the ##m_i##.)

Edit: For the anti-dual basis you will have to find three linear independent polynomials ##p_j = ∑ a_i^{(j)}t^i## such that ##F_i(p_j)=F_i(a_0^{(j)},a_1^{(j)},a_2^{(j)})=δ_{ij}##.
 
Last edited:

Similar threads

  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
3K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
3K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
991
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
3K
  • · Replies 15 ·
Replies
15
Views
2K
  • · Replies 10 ·
Replies
10
Views
3K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
3K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
4K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
Replies
1
Views
2K