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Prove this is greater than or equal to 8

  1. Sep 24, 2011 #1
    1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data

    Show that, if a, b, c >0 and a+b+c = 1, then,

    ([itex]\frac{1}{a}[/itex]-1)([itex]\frac{1}{b}[/itex]-1)([itex]\frac{1}{c}[/itex]-1) [itex]\geq[/itex] 8

    2. Relevant equations

    The usual math is ok

    3. The attempt at a solution

    I multiplied them out to get:


    = ([itex]\frac{1}{abc}-\frac{b}{abc}-\frac{a}{abc}+\frac{ab}{abc}-\frac{c}{abc}+\frac{bc}{abc}+\frac{ac}{abc}[/itex]-1)

    = ([itex]\frac{1-b-a+ab-c+bc+ac-abc}{abc}[/itex])

    = ([itex]\frac{ab+bc+ac}{abc}[/itex]) = ([itex]\frac{1}{a}+\frac{1}{b}+\frac{1}{c}[/itex]), .........as 1-(a+b+c) = 0

    abc is a small number as a,b,c are all less than 1, and it is and order smaller than
    anything in the numerator. OR, since a, b, c < 1,
    ([itex]\frac{1}{a}+\frac{1}{b}+\frac{1}{c}[/itex]) > 3

    Now I don't know what to do. I'm not even sure I'm on the right track...
    There may be some other logic I should be using to make this easier, but I don't see it.
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  3. Sep 24, 2011 #2


    Staff: Mentor

    According to what you wrote, a + b + c = 1. You haven't used this fact. If you do, you can get an expression that doesn't involve c.
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  4. Sep 24, 2011 #3

    so, use c = 1 - a - b, substitute that into the first equation, and see what happens?
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  5. Sep 24, 2011 #4


    Staff: Mentor

    That's what I had in mind, yes.

    I tried that, and was able to factor things a lot, but I wasn't able to show that the expression on the left is >= 8.

    Where you might go next is to consider w = f(x, y) = (1/x - 1)(1/y - 1)( (x + y)/(1 -x - y)). Use calculus to show that there is a global minimum, and that the minimum value is 8.
  6. Sep 24, 2011 #5
    I will try this. Also, would it be possible to see if:

    [itex](\frac{1}{a}-1)[/itex] [itex]\geq[/itex] 2,

    as, if this is done, without loss of generality, it would apply to each, and 2x2x2 [itex]\geq[/itex] 8
  7. Sep 24, 2011 #6


    Staff: Mentor

    The inequality above is true for 0 < x <= 1/3.
  8. Sep 24, 2011 #7


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    I can't judge from your title or first post what level of analysis you have had already. So I'll propose a couple of things:

    -- the straightforward one if you've had multivariate calculus is to use Lagrange multipliers, since you have a function and a constraint equation in three variables; you will be able to show easily that the critical point occurs where a = b = c ; you would then reduce the function to one with two variables and use the Second Partial Derivative Test to show that the value 8 is a minimum [the Test with three variable is messier]; this is, I believe, essentially what Mark44 is suggesting

    -- a non-calculus approach would be to consider that a + b + c = 1 in the first octant is an equilateral triangular region, the portion of the plane bounded by the coordinate planes; the product in question is plainly infinite at the edges of the triangle, so the interior must contain a minimum for the product; the three-fold symmetry of the region suggests that the "special point" lies where a = b = c = 1/3 ; that gives the "right number" for the product, but what is the behavior of the function?; fix one variable and shift one of the others by a small amount, which automatically shifts the remaining variable; show that any deviation from the special point must give a larger product
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